All About Love and Hate

Rune decided to play hooky, so we’re going to do errands and other fun things today, so I’ll keep this introduction short. I mean REALLY short. Happy Holidays again, peeps!

Me: Okay, one more question for today. Where did hate and love actually originate? I guess that’s weird, because I think we humans think that they have to have an origin and they have to have some sort of location.

Jamie: Wait. Read the question again.

I do.

Jamie: That’s weird, because I didn’t think about it as coming from a place or a location, and Erik didn’t start talking that way either.

Erik: Hate and love are the same thing, and it’s part of the makeup of our soul.

Me: Okay.

(Pause)

Me: Keep on going!

Erik: Well fuck! It’s like you said. It’s not just the heart chakra energy. It’s not an organ in the body. It’s like your body is the speaker, like a music speaker.

Me: Mm hm.

Erik: And it can sound off the vibrations of love. Hate is love, by the way. I know I’ve said that before. I’m saying it again.

Me: It’s part of the spectrum, basically, right? The spectrum of light. All is light.

Erik: Yeah, that’s how pink is a lighter version of red.

Me: Okay. Got it. Got it.

Erik: But yet they call it something like it’s totally different.

Jamie laughs.

Erik: Instead of just calling it light red, like they do light blue. They don’t do dark blue. They call it indigo.

Me: I did your nursery in baby blue, Erik.

Erik: Aw. I did my diapers in Milk Dud brown.

Me: Gross.

Erik: Yeah, it doesn’t come from a specific part of the body, but the body is a speaker for it. The heart vibration works better in projecting love, but the solar plexus and the root is better at projecting physical love.

Me: Right.

Erik: Then there’s spiritual love. The crown and the third eye do better with that. Our whole body possesses it, carries it. It’s part of a huge lesson on Earth. I really think we come here to remember how to love.

I love that quote. One of my favorites.

Me: Wow. Goosebumps. That feels so true.

(Pause)

Me: And I think what this reader also wants to know is where love and hate originated in the whole scheme of things—in the Universe.

Erik: Well, it’s us! That’s like asking, “Who are we as humans?” It’s not an Adam and Eve story where two individuals experience this new emotion. There’s never been a fucking true emotion. It’s part of who we are, and we come to Earth to feel separate from it and discover what it is again. I think that’s why it feels like such a new and incredible concept.

Me: Mm Hm.

Erik: But when you die, it’s just like your average bear.

Jamie (laughing): Just like your average bear! It’s how you feel all the time?

Erik: Insanely full of love.

Jamie: Nice.

Me: Here’s another submission: “Romantic love, in my opinion, is not the highest form of love, because there is always objectification involved. I think platonic love is the highest, purist form of love. Can you ask Erik about that, too?

Erik: Bullshit.

Me: Bullshit? Okay.

Erik: Sex is awesome!

I laugh.

Erik: Look, the purest form of love contains vulnerability.

Me (surprised): Oh!

Erik: So, often—he’s right. The sex can get in the way, because people will feel reserved or shy, and they set up rules and guidelines and they get all fucked up in the head. But if they came into the intimate or platonic relationship with complete vulnerability—able to discuss everything the person is experiencing WITH AWARENESS—vulnerability plus awareness is the purest kind of relationship you can ever experience on Earth.

Me: Okay. Wow.

Erik: Try practicing those things, and then experience sex! That’s going to be off the fucking charts!

Jamie giggles.

Me: So, vulnerability has to be involved. That’s so interesting.

Erik: People shy away from that word so much. I know I did. I thought if I cracked open and actually shared all of my crazy that I would just flat out be identified as it. There would be no way I could go beyond that at all. I’d be categorized! That’s it!

Me (soberly): Yeah.

Erik: So, you know, I kind of stuffed it in and tried to walk around it, but in reality, if you hold the state of being vulnerable and honest and the other person that you’re with does the same, then you would not be categorized.

Me: I guess it’s like opening yourself up and letting people in.

Erik: Yes, completely. Letting yourself in as well. And then when you open up, you do it mentally, because that’s what humans think—that they’re controlling it with their mind powers. But it also opens up their chakras.

(Pause)

Jamie: I told him to tell me what he’s talking about, because most people believe that they can be opened or closed, and there’s not a door and he goes, “Yeah, yeah. It’s not like a door, but the energy shifts to where it wants to. Think of like instant root growth—”

Jamie (giggling): You just want to say the word, “phalanges”?

Me: Wow, Erik! That’s a big word! Highly technical, too!

Jamie: He scruffs up his hair and goes, “Oh, thank you, thank you.”

Erik: I’ll be signing autographs later. Okay, so like instantly the chakra opens up, and the phalanges of energy rushes out to meet the other person’s equivalent chakra to share space.

Me: Okay.

Erik: Just like your mental mind opens up and shares the open space with the other open mind, the energetic body follows suit, which supports—

(Long pause)

Jamie (to Erik): Yeeessss?

Erik (chuckling): I just wanted to see you hang on my word.

Me: Okay, okay. I’m hanging, too, I’m hanging, too.

Erik: –which supports emotional vulnerability, because if you have that mental connection and that energetic connection, then all of a sudden you feel that your emotions will never become bruised. I don’t think I can honestly say I’ve ever had that kind of human experience, but I’ve seen it in other people from where I am now. I know it’s possible. This is not some kind of guru ass talk where you go climb the mountain and duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. It really comes through learning the basis of communication while identifying that no matter how fucked up you are, you’re okay.

Me (sounding relieved and surprised.): Oh! That’s good.

Erik: Well, you know, it’s true. I think so many people are out there identifying and labeling themselves and being hard on themselves for not having a certain kind of experience.

Me: Experience is experience. All are valuable.

Erik: Thank you! Yeah, it can’t be compared to the ones that the dude next to you is having or someone halfway across the world is having.

Me: Exactly.

Erik: That’s the simple fact of being human. I could just talk all day about that.

Me: I bet you could. Well put, Erik.

Erik (with mock formality): Thank you, Mother.

Me: Your welcome, my boy.

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  • T Diaz

    Love the Erik quote and the Mandela quote <3

  • sune

    Absolutely thought provoking..! Thank you for that very wise vision..!!
    Ir’s amazing to see how we messed up such natural state of being, into many categories and dramas..!

    Thank you very much for this beautiful Reminder..!

  • Marie

    This totally struck a chord: “…vulnerability plus awareness is the purest kind of relationship you can ever experience on Earth.”

  • Luci

    Yes, true strength is in being vulnerable. But if hate is the same as love, then why aren’t we filled with hate after we die? And why doesn’t hate have the same effect on our chakras as love?

    • Good question. Erik says it’s too hard to hold onto the denser emotions when you’re in spirit.

      • Luci

        Oh, that’s good to hear. Thank you.

  • What a touching story!

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