Are You Whole or Skim?

I’m just about to leave for the Channeling Erik Weekend of F-ing Enlightenment. I’m beyond excited! Can’t wait to meet you guys who are going, too. I won’t be posting tomorrow, but when I get back, I can’t wait to transcribe and post both my first session with Robert and Erik’s answer to Marcie’s Ask Erik submission!


Me: What do we look like to you, Erik?

Erik: People.


Erik: Dense. Milky.

Jamie: Milky?

(Pause as Jamie listens)

Jamie: He’s trying to describe.

Erik: You know, we’re so clear and fluid like water, and then when we go to work with people, they’re kind of dense and milky. You can’t see through milk.

Me: Kind of like sewage water?


Jamie (chuckling): For once he’s not going to go the nasty route. He goes, “No, not like sewage water.”

Me: Oh, okay. We just look like milk. Is it homogenized, whole, skim?

Erik: Whole milk

Jamie (giggling): He’s cutting up.

Me: Okay. Anything else on how we look.

Erik: No. Just dense.

Me: Well, some of us are. Well, what do we feel when you touch us, and what do you feel?

Erik: What do humans feel when I touch them? Mostly goosebumps, tingles.

I can vouch for that. If you guys ever get those prickles, it might be Erik giving you a hug.

Me: Definitely. I felt that.

Pause while Jamie shakes her head. Clearly Erik has said something inappropriate. Big surprise.

Jamie: He said something completely irrelevant and nasty that I’m skipping.

Me: Oh good. Please do.

What was I thinking? Of course I wanted her to share it. Dammit.

Jamie: You wanted to skip that. That’s good.

Not really. I lied. I think I just wanted to spare the poor girl.

Erik: Sometimes if I get really close to the person, I make them feel like they can’t take a deep breath. There’s this technique in the afterlife when we’re helping a human go through [something] whether it’s grief or anxiety, a hardship that they’re making harder on themselves because of the way that they’re perceiving it. We kind of get up in their energy, and we’ll wrap them like a cocoon almost. Think of it as a big bear hug.


Erik: We wrap them in energy and just let them know that they’re not alone. They’re with someone, and often I find that people can’t catch their breath, so they’ll take a big gasp. So, that’s mostly my big signals.

Me: Mm hm.

I gasp like that all the time!

Erik: Then what I feel when I touch humans—

(Long pause)

Jamie (to Erik): Yeah, that doesn’t register. He goes, “You know, kind of what it feels like when you walk through a wall.” And I’m like, ‘Yuh.’ (It’s hard to spell out the sound she made, but she shakes her head at the same time.)

Me (laughing): I don’t think so! We’d just get big goose eggs on our forehead if we did that.

Erik: Well, it’s kind of like when you put your cold feet in a hot tub. You dip your toes in there, and it burns, and you pull it out, but you kind of get used to it. You’re pushing through the heat. The heat’s is transferring all through the toes and the foot and everything. The water still stays [where it is], but the heat moves through. It has a, you know, an energetic response I guess on the inside, you could say. I guess that’s what it would feel like. At first, you kind of enter into the person’s energetic field, that big thing that you carry with you. That’s kind of easy. You’re like, “Oh, now I know the person, and I know what they’re thinking and feeling,” but when you enter into the body, it’s like toes stepping into the tub. You’re like, “Oooh.” You gotta get used to it. Sometimes—


Jamie: I’m asking him what “sometimes” means.


Jamie (to Erik, smiling): Eighty percent. That’s fine.

Erik: Eighty percent of the time you need permission to enter that person’s body. There’s probably 20% of the people that just don’t even notice, don’t even care. There are probably 40% of the people that notice when it happens but just kind of shrugs it off where you have to ask permission to work with that person further.

Me: Do you ask them on a conscious level, or –

Erik: No, no. Subconscious level. If it were on a conscious level, I’d fucking scare them out of their skin!

I giggle.

Erik: There’s about 40% who are highly aware that when they get that sensation, they know what’s going on.

That’s me. I’m in the 40% club. Yay.

Erik: They have boundaries clearly set, and you have to ask before you even attempt.


Erik: I can’t wait until everybody gets to be that way.

Me: Me too.


Jamie: He just got really calm and he’s like, “Yeah, that’s going to be fucking cool when everybody’s catching up to the concept of energetic bodies.”

Erik: You know, it doesn’t even have to be described as “spiritual” or “mysticism”. Fuck all that terminology. Just people waking up and being aware of the energetic body.


Jamie: He’s sitting down and nodding his head, and he goes, “Yeah. That’d be cool.”

Jamie laughs, and I follow shortly.

Me: That’s Erik! Erik, do you have anything else to say?

Erik: No.

Jamie: He’s trying to dance again.

Me: Oh, please don’t. Please don’t, Erik. You’re going to break a leg. An energetic leg.


Jamie (grinning widely): I have no idea what he’s doing. It’s funny, though. You don’t realize how leggy and arm-y he is.

Me: Oh, his is.

Jamie: He’s thin, but normally his arms are kind of always [close] to his body, or he has them sort of curled up.

She crosses her arms exactly like Erik used to do.

Jamie: You never get to see his wingspan until he pulls some of these things. Wow.

Me: He crossed his arms all the time. That’s pretty much how he walks. Pacing and crossing his arms.

I never remember him having his arms away from his body except for those lovely hugs.

Jamie: He’s—

Me: Spiderman!

Jamie: Yes.

She and I both laugh.

Jamie (to Erik, waving her hand at him): Sit down!

Me: How about you, Jamie. Do you have anything else to say?

Jamie: Mm mm. I just want to thank Erik for not messing with the videos anymore. The screen stayed exactly the same. Nothing shrunk or collapsed or—

Me: Thank you, Erik!


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  • Oh I LOVE this one! So interesting about the the boundaries, having to ask permission ect. I wonder does he mean by clearly defined boundaries, consciously setting up our own energetic boundaries (like imagining our own personal bubble that can’t be penetrated around us?). Or something else?

  • Chelsy

    Wow… are there any other ways you can train your conscious self to realize when a spirit wants to enter you or is close to you?

  • Chelsy

    I find it so strange how we’re pretty much 2 different beings in the same body, how one doesn’t even know about the other. That there are more worlds swimming around us than we can even comprehend let alone see through human perception. I’m in awe. Thank you for existing.

  • Jacqueline Orszulak

    Thanks medhus and butler team!!! Love everything you tell us. If more people knew how golden this info is! I’ve been studying mediumship for one year at camp chesterfield in Indiana. It is a wonderful place. You have answered many questions. I have channelled guides about 8 times in classes. I hope to get better at my mediumship, etc. The world is filled with syncronicity and miracles. I am thankful for finally knowing these things even though it took so many years. I am in my late fifties. Never to old to learn. Bless all of ymou. I’ve been talking to Erik trying to see if he can help my son John at all. He is alive and depressed most of his life. He isn’t open to much but I know if Erik can do anything he will. Bless you Erik. John o. Is the 36 yr. Old staying with mynsister in Lafayette Indiana. His girlfriend and her 2 daughters left him on Christmas. Thanks again. Love all

    L of you!

  • Lisa Musick

    Did you hear back from your publisher about the celebrity interviews?


    Amazing post really enjoyable thanks for share it.

  • Ginger

    Elisa, this is crazy, I had an experience recently in the middle of the night where something EXACTLY as Erik described happened to me but I woke up because I literally felt an arm wrap around my waist and hug me, pilling me in tightly like a cacoon! I couldn’t breath and gasped. I thought if Erik right away but then dismissed it thinking “why me?” What would make me so special that j
    He would take the time tondo that? But maybe because I told you about the night we did the Enchnted Spellboard and asked Erik to come and help our loved ones connect with us and he did! Not only that but with a kind of unspoken permission l(like he just explained) he entered my husband body and moved that thing around the board answering questions at lightening speed! And gave my husband a beautiful euphoric like experience( like being on ecstasy) if anyone has ever tried it reading this u will know exactly what I mean :). This is all such amazing stuff and we feel blessed to be a part of it, thank you for sharing your son with us all, a gift none of us could ever repay in anyway that compares to what we get out of it. We are thinking of trying to reach him through the board again this weekend, we will keep you posted, we just don’t want to abuse it…. That would be a good question I will ask him and my grandparents that come in with him… ” how much is too much in communicating with those whom have passed.” Or ” how does the SOURCE feel about it? “

    • Of coarse that was Erik. You know he could split off as many times as he wants. He was always such a good hugger.

  • Clau_Bueno

    Have fun this weekend!!! To bad I will miss this time but I will be thinking in all of you… for sure I have my questions that I would love to chat with Erik about it and get some input!
    Enjoy! Big hugs to you all!


    Are you posting more video interviews with Erik on YouTube? I haven’t seen any new ones for a bit.

    • Yep but we had to get jamie’s audio video worked out. We are going to start the celebrity interviews.

  • cristina

    HAVE FUN ALL at Channeling Erik Weekend of F-ing Enlightenment !!! 😛
    Wish I was there with you guys <3
    Let Erik dance, he can join me btw, me, my guide and my protector sometimes we all dance together 😛 I'm dancing and look at them and they have fun dancing too 😛 We are all funny, so erik you'll be perfect fit <3

    I don't think I'm that highly aware to be between those 40% who identify Erik immediately 😛 He usually gives me goosebumps on the back (shoulders) or in my hair…. but I never know for sure and I wonder: ok, is it Erik, I need a shower or I suddenly got lice ? 😀 Plus, I don't wanna blame that poor boy anytime something goes wrong with my electronic devices 😛 so I'm waiting as erik for that time when everyone including me, are sure about the signals 🙂

  • Yes, she said that we can do them again. I’ll just make those that are marked private and make them public.

    • cristina

      yyyaaayyyy !!! Good good, as I always remember what Buddha or others said in interview and want to paste the paragraph from interview to my friends 🙂

  • Jeanette DiPasquale

    The day will come with an open mind and heart all will be able to connect on the other side and it will be soon. One day some if not most of us will feel the power of love from the other side. One day most if not all of will be at peace, have peace and share peace. Thank you Erik. Peace!

  • Jaime Baxter

    from erik – a random video pick as a tribute to his momma for doing such an amazing job 🙂$X:p7vIUm7r/

  • LOVED this one, Elisa. Erik touched my left arm as I was laying on my side last week and I knew it was him. It made me cry (happy tears). He visits me often and communicates with me through what we would call “coincidence.” Though there is no coincidence. But I have not shared these experiences because they really aren’t “pranks” per se. I know I’m bound to get a prank soon. I can feel it.
    I’m happy that I’m part of the 40% that notices energetic bodies and shifts, etc. Thank you for visiting me, Erik! I dig you! <3

    • I’m sure he digs you, too! The stories don’t have to be pranks, though. Any interaction with Erik is game.

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