Channeling Sai Baba, Part Two

Enjoy the last session of the abridged interview of guru, Sai Baba.

Me: I feel funny asking you this, but do you have any regrets?

Sai: No.

Me: Because?

Jamie giggles at his answer.

Sai: I never took a step in my life without consciousness. This is why I have no regrets.

Me: How wonderful! Not many can say that. Can you share a past life that may have influenced your most recent one?

Sai: It was a life where I was a turtle. I lived for over a hundred years in the heat and the rain, and I loved only one.  And it was through this patience that was forced upon me because of the size of my body and by the—

Jamie (to Sai): I’m sorry. I don’t know that word. Condemption? It’s almost like being condemned to live a long life.

Me: Oh, okay.

Sai: Yes, I was condemned to a long life, and because of my size, I moved slowly. This allowed me to understand the subtleties of the earth and what she teaches us. Through this I gained the wisdom I needed to know how to be the human I wanted to be.

Me: Were you one of those gorgeous, huge Galapagos Island turtles?

Jamie: That’s exactly what he’s showing me! Don’t they live a really long time, like a couple of hundred years?

Me: Yes. Really long lives. Fascinating. My dad once rode a Galapagos Island turtle. I’ll have to find that picture.

Jamie: Really?

Me: Yeah. Now, have you reincarnated yet or do you plan to?

Sai: I will return to earth after the change is made to be able to sustain the people’s needs and desires.

Me: Okay. Can you tell us a bit about your afterlife?

Sai: Life is expansive and so is my afterlife.  I stay in the constant state of meditation and—

Jamie (stumbling to say a word that starts with a d): Can I say it in my words?

Erik: Go for it, Jamie!

Jamie (to Erik, giggling): No, Erik. I’m asking Sai Baba!

Everyone laughs.

Jamie: It’s confusing. His words are very graceful, but he’s sharing that he stays in meditation so that he can divide himself and work with thousands of people at a time. He’s constantly manifesting for centers and individuals and groups on earth to communicate with them and continue his teachings that he had on earth.

Me: Wow.

Sai: It was my will and my desire and my time to leave. I was told it was my time. I knew. Therefore, I agreed to it and accepted it, yet I still enjoyed the role of showing.

Me: So, before you passed away, you were already dividing yourself and manifesting yourself in various places, just like you did when you appeared before Jamie and the others while you were still alive.

Sai: Yes.

Me: Fascinating. Now, what do you think about the state of humanity now?


Me (in the high-pitched voice of a begging child): Be gentle, please!


Jamie sighs.

Sai: Thoughts and words and deeds shape others and they shape you and they have shaped the governments of every country. There should not be any dislike or distrust on language, age, sex, race, nationality, and socioeconomic status.

Me: So what you’re telling me is what you envision the state of humanity to be if it were perfect? It sure isn’t like that now!

Sai: To be clean, to be pure, one must first clean out.

Me: Clean out what?

(Long pause as Sai Baba explains to Jamie.)

Jamie: Ooo! He’s talking about cleaning out the judgments that humans think they have the right to hold.

Me: Yeah.

Sai: For so long, the children of the world were set free, and they gained a false sense of security and power. Now we must learn the untruth. You cannot and do not get attached to worldly pursuits and things. Be in the world, but do not let the world be in you.

Me: Wow. Any other advice or messages for us?

Sai: Everyone wishes to seek enlightenment, but the spiritual process is right living.

Me: Living right?

Jamie; Yeah, living right.

Sai: Good conduct, moral behavior, honesty—these are the spiritual progress; these are enlightenment.

Me: Okay, last but not least: Erik do you have any questions you’d like to ask?

Erik: What do you want to tell mankind? I know you’re already told them a lot.

(‘Gosh, was Erik listening?’ I thought.)

Sai: For what the people need now, I wish I could go to every person and tell him or her that patience is all the strength that man needs.

Jamie: When he says man, he’s referring to men and women.

Me: Yeah, humanity. But who are we kidding? We know it’s mostly men who need that, right, Jamie? Women are perfect!

Jamie (giggling): He smiles and then laughs.

Me: I’m just kidding, of course.

Jamie: You know he’s not really that straight-laced. He’s very relaxed in his posture. He looks comfortable and shifts his weight from one hip to the other.

Me: Well, thank you so much. I look forward to meeting you in the future.

Jamie: He puts his hands together and bows.

Me: I can just see him! Thanks so much, again.

Sai: Thank you, and I look forward to visiting you soon.

Me: Oh, I hope so! We’ll try to spread your wisdom to the masses.

Sai Baba leaves.

Jamie: That’s so cool! He said thank you, and he gives blessings on your book.

Me: Aw, thank you!

(Enough with the thank you’s already!)


Me: Wow. Just wow. The whole turtle thing just blew me away.

Jamie: That was really, really awesome! To hear him talk! He’s got that big hair! Big fuzzy hair!

Me: I don’t know what he looks like. And fuzzy hair? Really, Jamie? Isn’t all hair fuzzy?

Jamie laughs.

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  • Cochineal

    Such a good choice since we are on the verge to the new year. Beautiful words to live by and may we all take them to heart. Happy New Year to everyone…

  • Steve

    I used to be of the belief that we only reincarnated as humans…but reading Dolores Cannon’s Convoluted Universe series, people under deep hypnosis talk about experiencing past lives in all forms – from air, water, rock, plants, nature spirits, humans etc. Fascinating!
    I also like his message about patience. It’s something I’m better at now but still need to work on more.

    • Ash

      I’ve read before that you only “evolve” during reincarnations. For example, you may have begun as something smaller – a rock, but you can only go “up” from there. So, you’d go from a rock in one life, to an animal in the next, and then to a human, etc. But you couldn’t be a human in one life and then come back later as something lower on the evolutionary scale. So, according to that theory, Sai Baba would have been a turtle before he ever had a human incarnation.

  • Lisa


  • Maria Laing

    New concept for me here tonight! I had not known of the possibility of being other than human, or “like human”/star-seed, etc.. Will have to read/learn more. What a coincidence, Elisa, of your father on the turtle! I’ll bet that is an interesting story. Thank you once again for opening the way for greater realization through Jamie via Erik. Each day we progress a bit more. Bless you.

  • Anonymous

    LOVE this!! “There should not be any dislike or distrust on language, age, sex, race, nationality, and socioeconomic status.”

  • LinT

    Wow! really surprising to know that Sai Baba was once a tortoise… as we call them here in UK.They are such serene creatures.
    I’m now wondering ‘who’ little Clifford (my pet tortoise) here actually is or was!! 🙂
    I’ve always had an affinity with tortoises since keeping 2 as a child,sadly not alive now.
    I also see them as being a little like me…strong on the outside yet very soft within! …I’m working on the serene bit!
    Thank you for all the knowledge you 3 are so kindly putting out there for everyone.
    Happy New & Peaceful Year of continued Global Enlightenment
    Much Love n’ Light xxx

  • Actually, I think they are tortoises but I can’t edit the dialogue.

  • CC

    I think if sai baba meant turtle its a turtle.He is sai baba after all.:)
    heres a link to to the differences between the 2.Although some regions call in tortoise, in the world we have different species so it could just be a turtle?

  • cc

    Can you advise how sai baba could be a turtle in a previous life?I mean from turtle to a person who would greatly change the world,someone like jesus.From the comments below,if you can evolve into some species higher,wouldnt he had to be a turtle to have a human experience and then the great sai baba?

  • I think him being a turtle was not so much to help others but to experience living in the now. Maybe?

    • Prem

      Sal Baba once told us that He is the 10 th avatar, the kalki avatar. One of the first, of the 10, was a tortoise. You can read about them in indian scriptures.

  • Sai Baba is not just a turtle

  • so Baba was a turtle eh? sound so touching. however, these masters hide things in Codes. he claims to be the reincarnation of Krishna, the 8th Avatar of Vishnu [God]. other claim that too, for him.

    —and he was a tortoise in a previous life eh?

    [from the internet.]

    The ten avatars of Lord Vishnu are discussed below.

    Matsya Avatar- Lord Vishnu in the form of fish: The first avatar was taken by Vishnu at the Satya Yuga, when a flood destroyed the world. Through this avatar as a fish he saved the humanity and the sacred Vedas from the flood.

    Kurma Avatar- Lord Vishnu in the form of tortoise: Vishnu took this avatar to help the Devas (Gods) to obtain the amrut (nectar) of immortality which was also sought after by the Asuras (demons). He helped in creating the world by giving support of his back through this avatar.
    see that? the first earthly Incarnation of sai baba is a turtle, the tortoise!! the first earth-incarnated avatar is that tortoise!
    baba would be the 10th avatar, Jesus is 9th.
    always read between the lines for these masters and old old souls!!

  • Very cool!

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