Euthanasia, Part One

I hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving! Mine was great. Lots of happy noise, full bellies and family closeness. Of course, it’ll be a lot better when someone (hint, hint, Lukas) cleans up their share of the dishes.

Before reading the first part of our Euthanasia series, check out this hilarious video my daughter, Kristina, made with her husband, Houston (a.k.a. HB.)

Kim: Hello, again. We’re back.

Me: We are back! Hello, Erik! Hello, Kim!

Erik (cupping his hands around his mouth): Hello, Mom.

Kim (laughing): He’s being goofy!

Me: He’s always goofy. Last topic for today: euthanasia. A lot of people have asked about that. Give me your thoughts. I don’t have any particular questions so I’ll give you the floor. You got the mic.

Erik: Earlier we were talking about being self-directed.

Me: Yeah, I see how that plays a part.

Erik: Knowing how to be self-directed, Mom, and listening to that, being responsive to that—

Kim: Ooo, he’s going to get really deep on this, and he’s getting into a bigger subject.

Me: Wow. Okay. It’s already a big subject!

Kim: Yeah. He has his eyebrows up and this really humble, boyish look on his face, like really innocent.

Erik: People are afraid of death. It’s not just a fear of death. Some people have a fear of God. That’s why you see euthanasia as something that’s whispered about. Euthanasia is about being self-directed. Some people will completely not understand or relate to it. If this is something you want for yourself, for example, knowing that you’re in Stage Whatever cancer and it’s going to be a terrible ride, take that internal self-direction and make the decision for yourself. A lot of times when people make this choice, it is a connection to their Higher Self because they want to leave with a good experience.

Kim (nervously): He’s getting real direct here. This is hard to translate because people are going to have their opinions.

She chuckles.

Erik: All right. I’m going to talk out of both sides of my mouth for a minute. What good will it do you—and by the way, it’s not that I’m for or against euthanasia—I’m just trying to explain to you the purpose. What good would it do for you to have a negative experience if your health is failing and will continue to fail? On the other hand, negativity gives value to a positive experience. If everything was all positive all the time, how are you even going to know the value of that positive.

Me: You need that contrast.

Erik: Yeah, but you don’t have to have a negative experience to know positive. (squinting) You see where I’m going with this? First of all, you have to have heart for people who want this for themselves instead of criticizing them, “Why would they do that? That’s so outrageous!” These people have a higher sense of knowing what’s best for them and their path. Euthanasia, in general, Mom—newsflash—it’s not something that’s frowned upon here. It’s just an experience. That might seem harsh to some people, but it’s not like, “Oh, that’s a sin. You’re going to be punished for that when you come Home.” It’s an experience.

Kim covers her face in shock and nervousness.

Me: Uh oh. He’s got Kim in the hot seat!

Kim: Yeah! Listen, I can’t sugarcoat it because it’s Erik, and it would be untrue.

Erik: It’s just another way to die. Sorry if that sounds harsh, people, but it’s true.

Me: Well, I can understand it in people whose bodies are wracked with cancer who are in pain but what about people who are just spiritually or mentally depressed, and they want to be euthanized? You have to consider how many people it touches and hurts: the family members and friends, leaving behind children, etc.

Erik: That’s true because if euthanasia was legal everywhere and it was just something you could request and have done, I promise the population would be cut way down!

Me: You could have drive-thrus like they have drive-thru wedding chapels in Vegas. Drive-thru euthanasia places.

Erik: Yeah.

Me: Just kidding.

I thought we needed a little comic relief.

Erik: It’s scary to think how many people would use that, especially if they had a rough day at work, “I’m just going to end it and have this done.”

Me: Yeah, it could be an impulse thing!

Erik: Yeah, exactly. It certainly would affect others, Mom. You talk all the time about the collateral damage from my death.

Me (sadly): Mm.

Erik: But to a point, you have to recognize attachments, too. If you want my personal opinion, I’m against having easy access to euthanasia because there’s value in struggle! There’s value in hard times, in hard lives. There really is, but people don’t want to feel that. They don’t feel anything unless it feels good. But how do you even know what good is unless you’ve experienced the opposite? I know. Don’t call me a hypocrite. Life can be hard and challenging no matter what you’re going through.

Me: But that’s what we’re here for. That’s the human experience.

Erik: Yeah, and sometimes if you’re willing to stick it out through the hard times, you’ll come out in the end into a more beautiful existence. With the impulsivity that people do have—and they’re so much more impulsive now so they don’t think; they just do; they don’t feel; they just do—if euthanasia was easily accessible, the universe, as a whole, would have a lower vibration because of the emotions connected to it. I’m talking about the collateral damage. There are some cases where it should be a second guess; you shouldn’t have to think twice like with people who are facing a horrible future because of their health. Hopefully, the family of these people who are in that deep struggle with their health—and that doesn’t just mean physical. I’m including mental health, too—hopefully the families would also want their suffering to end even if by euthanasia.

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Stay tuned for Part Two Monday!

 

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  • Boel

    I think my work as a veterinarian would be much harder if we didn’t have the option to euthanize the animals. Where I live (Sweden) that is the preferred way to deal with animals in deep suffering and poor prognosis. Like a final act of kindness. I would definitely choose that for myself as well as my loved ones if the only alternative was long-term pain without promise of relief.

    • Léon Vrins

      I agree, but some animals don’t want any help in dying, they want to do it themselves. The best would be to ask an animal communicator to talk with the animal. I know a littfle bit about this, because my wife and a couple of her friends are animal communicators. One of our cats, who was near the end of his life wanted to die without help, but my wife could not stand the idea seeing him choke and she told him so. That’s your problem, he answered, Finally they made a deal: when he could not get up anymore, euthanasia was okay and so it happened. Five years after that, his mate Rokus stopped eating, not because of some illness, but because he had decided that his time was over. We asked a friend communicator to talk with him and he told her that he enjoyed his life with us, and that he would return, but not again as a domestic cat but as a cougar, as he had been in his former life. It was a very sad, moving but also beautifull proces seeing him losing his strenght and weight until after about four weeks he was ready to go, with euthanasia given by the best friend of my wife, who is aveterinarian. He chose the same date to die as his friend five years before….

      • Kathy

        I have had pets die naturally, and put down at the Vet clinic. Naturally was very hard to watch. Not everyone has access to a animal communicator in the time of need for pets. And not all animal communicators are good, and it could be just their thoughts on it and not really the animals. I wanted to know if when a pet is taken to the Vet clinic and put down, compared to being at home being put down by a vet. Will the pets soul leave the body the same at home compared to at the clinic? I always felt that maybe the pet would be scared leaving their body at the clinic, and their spirit not knowing how to come home.

      • 403LEC

        Interesting point of view Kathy! And compassionate too 🙂

      • Léon Vrins

        Of course at home is the best place to die, but unfortunately some vets prefer their clinic, because that’s easier for them. I don’t know if the soul prefers one place to another, but for the people involved at home is the best choice.

      • I use the eBoard to talk to my pets.

      • Oscar Perez

        That’s an amazing story! Thanks for sharing!

    • 403LEC

      I agree with you Boel.

    • Nancy Antia

      Oh! I do too!

  • OK, Houston is hilarious, and Kristina has gorgeous eyes. Now that’s what I call a “doc”umentary! ;^P

    • 403LEC

      I had to put my beloved cat down during my sister’s illness. My sister was dying in the hospital. After a couple of weeks of visiting her, my sister, in the hospital I came home one day to find my sweet cat was SO VERY sick. I called the vet’s office and drove over there and held her during the process. I swear I have never cried so hard in years. I drove to my friends house and had a drink (alcohol) which truly helped me. God that was hard but it was the combination of my sister and then finding my cat so sick. My cat used to sleep on my chest when we took a nap and she would stare at me and purr. We did that for years. I loved my sweet cat and miss her.

      • What a terrible time for you. Sending a hug.

      • 403LEC

        Thank you darlin 🙂

    • Léon Vrins

      The first thing those vets had in mind was not the wellbeing of the animals, but the profit they could make by giving them treatments they knew in advance could not do any good for the animals.

      • Georgia95Luciana Todesco

        I do wonder about that. We had a beautiful cat who was diagnosed with cancer. I will never put an animal through that again. Four thousand dollars of treatment, only to make him suffer. I decided to have him put to sleep after I realised I was keeping him alive for us, not for him. Chimney was his name. By the end, he had bald patches all over his body where all the needles had been stuck into him.

      • Léon Vrins

        Sometimes we seem to have to learn sad lessons, but you can be sure Chimney has forgiven you. You know, my wife has worked many years as a vet’s assistent and she has seen many times that an animal is kept alive for the same reason.

  • Kathy

    I wondered if going by some drug used in Euthanization allows the soul to leave the body the same way if a person was to die naturally? Is there a thing that the Body has to do slowly in a natural death compared to a quick body death ?

  • Kathryn/KM

    Totally loved your beautiful daughter’s makeup tutorial and the funny, creative narration of it as well! It totally kept my interest and I rarely wear makeup!

  • Georgia95Luciana Todesco

    I struggle with euthanasia. Why do we have to have state-sanctioned suicide? Why can’t people just kill themselves? I believe people have the right to take their own lives and when to die. I don’t think they go to hell. They are simply, as Erik said, self-directed. But there have recently been cases in Europe where a teenage girl was euthanased because she was depressed. My worry would be that swathes of people would decide they’d had enough–whether from depression, anxiety, mental illness, disease, discomfort–and choose to have the pin pulled, rather than pull the pin themselves.

    • Léon Vrins

      Some people are capable to kill themselves when they think it’s time to go, for example just because they decide their life is complete. The problem is, that it is not allowed to help people in one way or another, who are not able anymore to do it without help. For that religions are to blame. In their view it is a sin to take your life, because God gave it to you, but if there is really a free will, also given by God, one must be allowed to make any choice, including ending one’s own life…

    • Yeah, why should it be up to the government?

    • Weezer Fan

      Well, first of all, a person killing themselves can be very, “messy”. Not trying to make light at all. Just saying, that if a terminally ill person makes the choice to end their own life, doing it at home puts the rest of the family at risk of trauma that they should not have to endure. In a hospital setting, it can be a much cleaner, respectful, and dignified experience for the people who love the people that are passing.

  • Nancy Antia

    Hello Elisa, I wonder why my comment is not here. Was there something incorrect in it? I stated I was an advocate for death with dignity and mentioned Brittany Maynard’s legacy. Thank you!

    I love watching Kristina put all that make up on her face sooo professionally. Amazing!

    • I didn’t reject any comment so I’m not sure what happened. I’d never do that to you, Nancy.

      • Nancy Antia

        Oh, I see. Then something must have gone wrong when I posted it. Thank you for your fidelity to an old member of the blog. I’ve always been proud of belonging to the CE Family and I feel you’re part of my own family. Sending you my blessings.

  • Georgia95Luciana Todesco

    Hi Nancy, thank you for your answer. I watched the video. But I still don’t get it: why does it have to be state-sanctioned? People can, and do, take their lives all the time without it being sanctioned by the state.

    • The government is pretty arrogant to think they know better than its citizens. They’re just our employees, after all.

      • Nancy Antia

        I wish they were our employees in Argentina. That’s what our Constitution says but it doesn’t work that way at all. Did you know our Constitution is inspired in the USA Constitution?

      • No, I didn’t!

      • Nancy Antia

        Oh, yes. They have a lot in common. We’re americans just like you but live in the south. I wish we were all united, latin america and north america…

  • 403LEC

    What about Hospice? If you are given a terminal diagnosis you can use Hospice and they will keep you comfortable until you pass. Not the same as euthanasia but pretty close for humans. I will call Hospice if I get a terminal diagnosis. I just heard about a lady who was diagnosed with Stage 4 Pancreatic cancer and she called Hospice right away and is not planning any chemo or other treatments. Also, what is up with pancreatic cancer??? So many people get this and it’s already too damn late. Isn’t there some kind of screening test or something???

  • Michelle Schill

    Your son-in-law is hysterical, Elisa! John and I used to have discussions about this subject all the time before he crossed over. We both felt it should be readily available to all; however, now John now agrees with Erik on this. We think this is an important topic to be discussed. We think that society’s views on death need to change.

    • 403LEC

      I agree with you Michelle 🙂