Gay Marriage and Religion

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This Best of Erik is a touchy subject. I hope it doesn’t get me into a lot of trouble. 

Me: Okay, here’s a question from a blog member. “With Obama’s recent acceptance of gay marriage, many faith-based people are having conversations about the Bible’s take on homosexuality being an abomination. What’s Erik’s feeling on the absolute truth of the Bible? Was it written by God or man and why do so many of the spiritual leaders around the world all take that line of the Bible about homosexuality literally?”

Erik: It’s with any story. You only take from it what you need. The Bible was not written by God’s hand Himself. It was channeled through a human, and if it’s channeled through a human, it goes through a filter.

Me: So, I guess God doesn’t have an opposable thumb, huh? Can’t hold that pencil Himself.

Jamie laughs hard.

Jamie: My god, that made him laugh. He’s teasing about God not being a primate.

Erik: Getting back to the idea that you take from the story that you need. So, if you’re twelve, you’re taking a different moral, you’re taking a different perspective, and it feeds your soul for what it can understand at that moment in time. And as you get older it changes and morphs into different meanings, but that’s the beautiful thing about a story. Also, when the story is written, it’s written to the market that was alive at the time. We have a completely new market, but yet this Bible has never changed! We’ve evolved; we’ve changed as a society, culture, human, collection of beliefs and understandings, but yet we have this Bible that was filtered through people who were living in a time that doesn’t relate to us at all—except human relationships. Well, even our human relationships have evolved.

Me: Yeah, true.

Erik: It’s a good story, and I think people should invest the time in all religions like the Tibetan Book of the Dead—read all of these scripts and take from it what you want, what you need.

Me: Your personal truth.

Erik: Yeah. But I wouldn’t go and push it onto people by knocking on their doors and tell them these are facts. Excuse me, but—

Jamie (to Erik, laughing): That made no sense!

(Pause)

Jamie (clearing throat): Alright.

Erik: We don’t even know if God is make or female. God is combined energy of masculine/feminine. Angels have not reincarnated to Earth hold both the masculine and feminine energy, just like God. Why on earth do we fight so hard to men and women separate? It makes no sense! The lesson on Earth is to love.

Me: Yeah.

Erik: Great, so the lesson on Earth is really to love so on Earth people need struggle and pain to learn how to define what love is. That’s the beauty of Earth—that you have to have the extremes to understand the concepts. But we don’t need the extremes to use as a measuring stick. So, we have the struggles: men who love men, women who love women, men who want to be women and vice versa—just all of it. But the truth of the matter is we’re not allowing an environment to support these people in learning how to love. And shame on us for doing that.

Me: God, yes. Shame on us. So, are you both feminine and masculine, Erik? Have you gotten in touch with your feminine side?

Erik: Yes, I have.

Jamie: But he quickly grabbed his crotch and said a few words I won’t repeat.

Me: Oh, Erik. What am I going to do with you?

Jamie: I’ll just say he still has his parts.

We both sigh.

Jamie (firmly to Erik): No, don’t. I don’t want to see anything, Erik.

Me (laughing): He sure does like to tease you, Jamie!

Jamie: Don’t Erik! I’m leaving the room!

Erik (laughing mischievously): You can’t leave me! I can show up anywhere!

Jamie: I know! That’s the terrible thing!!

Me: Ah!!! The curse of Erik!

We all laugh.

Me: Maybe we should move along.

 

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  • Judith

    Ok. Blame it on my gin and tonic. God does not judge us. We are not to judge each other,
    judge not lest ye be judged. Or something like that. We are to love one another. Period.
    We do not choose to be gay. We are born that way. It is not a sin. I am not gay, do not have children who are gay but this makes sense to me. God love everyone of us. No matter what we are like. And I’m so thankful for this.

  • Liberate_me

    My best friends are gay, I always admired real love, no matter what gender humans have. Did I got the book wrong, or in fact there is no real god?! It is more like an collective of ourselves. Seriously I never understood why people on earth need a “god” so hardly. If there would be a real god made us and controls everything, like so many people (want to) think, it would mean I would be just a slave and “under control” and seriously I feel Im so much more than that.. 😉

    • God is All There Is. I think it’s a sentient, self-aware energy and it’s all energy. That energy is Love. We are part and whole of God.

      • Liberate_me

        Alright, but it is not a thinking life form, do actively control/judge/watch us, like so many people think. It is more like we are all god from another point of view.

  • Anna Patty

    Erik you had me laughing! I believe it’s all about LOVE here as well. Isn’t there same sex insects, etc., that get together as well on this earth?

  • Paulette Roberts

    I always tell people that at some point I just grew up and realized that gay is biological. No one would have any orientation if if wasn’t for these bodies, ha ha, I’m not gay but for gods sake get over it people.

  • Judith F.

    Hilarious!! Erik’s humor actually helps in recalling the lessons he’s bringing us. Going forward, when I try and recall what he said about gay marriage and religion, I’ll just think “Oh, yeah…that’s the one where he grabbed his crotch!” 😉

  • EL

    Again, not as an argument to support or not support homosexuality, I wanted to find out who created our physical body? What was the intention of designing bodies that’s either male or female, and no other variations? If the soul is both masculine and feminine, how come we don’t have a physical body that would naturally change between male and female?

    Also, if homosexuality is just one type out of many kinds of sexualities, why should we have physical bodies that would only produce offspring between a male and female? It would be nice if our modes of reproduction also support all kind of gender relationships. Which really makes me wonder why does our physical body have so many restrictions? What was the idea behind that?

    • I bet there are beings in the Universe that don’t have such physical restrictions. Have you watched the Sex and Gender YouTube on the CE channel?

      • EL

        You mean the one titled “Channeling Erik: Erik’s Insight on Gender and Sex in the Afterlife”? If so, I definitely did watch that 🙂

        I totally believe there are beings in the Universe that don’t have those restrictions. My question would be why are our bodies so far removed, if not the exact opposite of who we are as spirits (i.e. spirits don’t die, bodies die; spirits have no gender, yet gender differences is the defining feature of human bodies; spirits aren’t restricted by time and space, bodies are).

        Speaking of which, I think it’ll be awesome if you can do a session discussing the relationship between the physical body and the soul. Why is our physical body designed/evolved as it is today. I think this will be educational because a lot of judgements today stem from characteristics of the physical body. For example:

        1. People believe heterosexual relationship is THE ONLY CORRECT way because male/female union is the only way the physical body can reproduce. A Leopard slug, for example, has a body that is both male and female. They reproduce by impregnating each other. So if our physical body also has no clear male/female distinction and no restrictions on the way we can reproduce, the entire judgement on homosexuality will disappear. There will be no reason to believe homosexuality is a deviant sexuality in any way.
        2. In societies/cultures where male are believed to be superior than female. The reasons cited for supporting this belief are:
        -males generally have stronger bodies/females have weaker bodies
        -female bodies menstruate and there are so much shame and inferiority associated with that…it’s historically seen as unclean, or as bad omen. Even today when we understand the physiology behind it, it is still a taboo/embarrassing to discuss openly.
        -female body get pregnant, while male body impregnate
        -protruding genital (penis) is better than a genital that’s an opening and mostly internal (vagina). (better in a sense that vagina needs to yield way for penis during intercourse?)
        -Aristotle even viewed “a female is an incomplete male or ‘as it were, a deformity”.

        I would love to find out what is the meaning of having this kind of human body. What are the lessons for us to learn?

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