Spirit Communication Relativity

Kent Lehman is a Spirit Communicator who works with his wife Cindy Musil to facilitate his communication with Spirit. Learn more about the couple and sign up for their monthly e-newsletter on their website.

Cindy: Erik can you explain how people who have passed can be in multiple locations simultaneously? For example, if everyone in the Channeling Erik family wanted to talk with you at exactly the same time, could you interact with all of them or would you have to pick and choose who you could communicate with at that moment in time?

Kent (laughing): Erik is showing me a picture of Sheldon from the “Big Bang Theory” splitting into multiple versions of himself…

Erik: It’s kind of hard to explain in your terms. Consciousness is all interconnected like a big internet. Spirits are able to split their energy.

Cindy: Does it dilute their energy? If you’re talking with one person vs. 100 people do you have more energy for the one person than you do when you’re splitting your energy among 100 people?

Erik: It doesn’t dilute it. It’s all the same source. It just makes multiple parts of the same energy. If you have a glass of water and you dump it out and the water flowed in all directions, that’s kinda how it is. Since our consciousness doesn’t just occur in one moment of time. The actual essence of the water is the same and is connected. It’s not like the glass was the entity. The energy is the water. So it’s the same—whether it’s in the glass or on the table or on the floor. We’re able to spread out our energy and have a conversation with multiple people. It does take energy to do it, because of the timeframe and it not being linear, but we’re able to take it all in. Like multi-tasking.

Kent: To us, it seems like the same time, but to him, he’s having several individual conversations. It’s simultaneous—multiple conversations at the same time but individual.

Erik: This is what they’re starting to understand with metaphysics and what Einstein was saying with the Theory of Relativity.

Kent: It’s hard for us to get around the “black and white” of energy and molecular structure.

Erik: Here’s an easy example: Light—When people talk about the particle theory and the wave theory of light and they ask, “Which theory is right?” Actually, the more they study it, and the more they get into it, they discover it’s both. And that doesn’t make logical sense, but it does when you start getting into the universe and the energy and that type of thing. How can it be both? It should only be one or the other, but it’s both. In certain situations it acts like a particle and in certain situations it acts like a wave. So it’s just relative.

Kent: He’s saying it’s hard to understand because we do things in linear terms. And so on the physical plane, you can only reside in one spot at a time. So for us to have a conversation with one person here and another over there, we would have to move and wouldn’t be able to continue the conversation with the first person if we move to have a conversation with the second person.

Erik: But in the Spirit plane, since there isn’t time as you know it, we’re just able to divide our energy.

Kent: He could be talking to a hundred people, who to us might seem simultaneous, but to him he’s having individual conversations, because there’s no relevance to time. So the conversations are going on individually and simultaneously all at the same time. He said kind of like Einstein’s Theory of Relativity. It’s both. Time is relative.

Erik: 5 or 10 minutes in a Dentist’s chair can seem like a whole day but 5 or 10 minutes with a beautiful woman is like a flash. So which one’s right? They’re both right. It’s relative to your perception and what you’re paying attention to. It’s both. It’s simultaneous and it’s separate.

Kent: He’s having a conversation with us right now, but he’s also having conversations with others right now. It’s not like he’s talking with us, then jumping over to talk with the next person, then the next person, then jumping back to talk with us. It can all happen at the same time. But he’s having individual conversations.

Cindy: Are you open to communicating with anyone who contacts you?

Erik: Yeah.

Cindy: Are there any limitations?

Erik: No.

Kent: He makes an effort to remind people by doing pranks.

Cindy: Do you like helping people?

Erik: Shit Yeah! It really juices me to see people have a breakthrough. That’s the great thing about the Channeling Erik blog, because it’s a huge reference. People can go back through and read it.

Kent: And just by reading about him it makes it easier to connect with him. He likes helping people to connect with their spirit guides and the spirit realm, but most importantly to learn about themselves. And discover who they are. What their lessons are and to be more aware of their life.

Erik: One thing that needs to change as we shift in this consciousness is that so many people are on auto-pilot. They’re not paying attention to things that are going on. Simple things. And they are missing so much because they’re distracting themselves instead of taking the time to go within. People distract themselves either by using drugs, or by TV, or whatever, just escaping all the time instead of asking, “What are these emotions telling me.” And taking charge of that.

Kent: He’s excited because the people who are involved with the (CE) blog are breaking out of that. They’re searching. They’re either willing to do the work or at least open-minded enough to look at it.

Cindy: So if they’re willing to do the work, how can you help them?

Erik: I help them by giving them validation through the pranks. Of course the pranks are a lot of fun, but they also have a reason. It helps demonstrate everything that we’re saying on the blog. Life continues on and your loved ones are all still around you. There’s another dimension of existence right next to the physical. So that’s part of how I help. The other part is through sending messages as people slow down and listen. Either by meditating or by just paying attention. It’s a way for me to get my messages through. Whether it’s encouragement or something silly that they read on the blog.

Cindy: So if a member of the CE family did want to communicate with you, what’s the best way to solicit your help or advice?

Erik: The best way is to talk to me like I’m there. And to be open…Open your awareness and pay attention because it may, depending on where you’re at, be the easiest way to get the message to you.

Kent: He was reminding us that spiritual energy is subtle a lot of times.

Erik: Chances are you’re not going to hear a booming voice in your head. That’s harder to do. Pay attention to what’s around you. It could be a dragon fly. It could be a penny sitting somewhere. Or it could be somebody calls and you get the answer from that person. Be open to various ways that the answer could come to you. Try to push the logical part of your mind to the side and just see what impressions you get in your mind. It may not be a whole paragraph or a lot of information. It may just be a phrase or a song or something that pops into your mind. Don’t discount that. Pay attention. Ask what that means to you.

Kent: He said that’s how spirits and your higher self communicate with you all the time. It’s just that we’re so busy with all of our distractions—cell phones, computers, TVs, everythingthat we miss a lot.

Erik: It doesn’t have to be sitting down and doing a meditation and trying to connect. I mean, that’s a great habit to get into also but we’re communicating with you all the time.

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  • Denise

    Now is all there is.

  • Wow, I can’t tell you how this thread spoke to me…good stuff! Erik, can you please connect me to my higher self as I’m ready to deal with some buried emotions.

    • CindyEclecticVerve

      I’m glad to read that our communication with Erik was useful to you, Steve. Erik seems to have a gift for sharing information that speaks to a lot of people!

  • Irina

    ” It could be a dragon fly. It could be a penny sitting somewhere. ”
    The other day I was having an intense conversation with Erik in my head and really needed to hear the answer to a pressing question. SO, as I walk to my apartment building I am in the parking lot, alone and out of nowhere a bright yellow balloon with a big smiling face comes right to me and starts bouncing like a ball. A balloon bouncing like a ball in the wind!So I start laughing really hard and I chase the ballon that was heading towards the building’s door so I can take a picture of it. Because I knew nobody was gonna believe me, and because I wanted to capture the moment. To my neighbor’s amusement, who was on the balcony smoking I drop all my grocery bags and like a crazy person run and run and run after the ballon.
    All I can say is I LOVE YOU ERIK!

  • CindyEclecticVerve

    Thanks for sharing that image, Irina! A yellow balloon with a smiling face.

  • Anonymous

    Love this post today 🙂 xoxox

    • CindyEclecticVerve

      Thanks for your feedback, Polly.

  • Amber

    Thank you Erik, this was great explaining of an alien concept to us here. ou’re so ALIVE!!!

  • Anonymous

    Thank you Erik, you are right on time. I am still wondering if it was you that twisted up my curtains and tucked them behind the tv stand 🙂 If so, you scared the crap out of me!
    Also, just wanted to share, but a few days ago, I had a dream of seeing my fish dead in the fish tank. The next morning, I went down to check on him and he was ok. A few days later, he died because my husband did a drastic water change 🙁

  • Clau Bueno

    i always love Erik’s explanations! I just started my little yoga and meditation class this weekend to give me some guidance in how slow down my brain of the daily routine and be more aware of my surroundings! I’m working on in how to see your prank, Erik!!
    I also know that sometimes, my waves of sadness, creates a blockage! 🙁
    Love you CE family for being so helpful on my spiritual path! You are angels!

  • Fantastic! This is so clear and to the point. Very simple ( which is always best for me ) This will get me through more than just the day. I can really milk this one Erik! Thank you.

    • CindyEclecticVerve

      I agree. Erik makes complex concepts easy to understand through his analogies.

  • Preplanet


  • Elisa, I first want to say that it’s crazy how I uploaded a video of Audrey Hepburn on Facebook right before clicking your site and finding “Channeling Audrey Hepburn”. In regards to Spirit Communication, I had my first contact with a spirit via dream since I was a young child. It was the spirit of Ben Breedlove, not the first spirit I would have expected or was looking to contact me, but I am happy that he answered a question I had been thinking about, I posted it in the forum.

  • Great questions were asked. I never thought to wonder if the energy dissipates when a spirit bi-locates (not sure what term to use). I’m so excited to keep up with Erik. I shared this page on my blog as well.

  • Onelove444

    I really needed to hear this one. I tend to get too wrapped up in my distractions, phone, internet, and stressing. I do practice focusing myself in the now and meditation, but recently I have lost track. I do talk often to spirit and god, actually any soul that can hear at the time.
    I am fairly new to the blog and can’t seem to get enough. The other day I was rather emotional from worry of a loved one who is experiencing health problems and personal conflict. I just couldn’t untie myself from my emotions. So I started to pray/talk to god and spirit asking for help out of the way I felt. I was sitting outside where I have wind chimes and all of a sudden all of the wind chimes started to swing in circles, with out any wind. I started to laugh out of excitement. I thought to myself how did that happen? Within I heard I did it. I didn’t care to ask, I who. I was just happy to have such a beautiful confirmation. Thank you Erik for all of this, it is a wonderful reminder of what is important in life.

  • Some great advice by Erik on how to be more open to communicating with him.

  • Mekaylah

    so, if we want to talk to spirit, and we should talk to them like they are here, should we speak out loud? i usually just try to have the conversation in my head. if i call on a spirit or loved one, should i talk out loud? thanks!

    • They’ll hear you either way. I talk to Erik in my head. It works just fine. If I talk out loud it freaks too many people out.

      • Sign1me

        AAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH !!!!!! it’s true Elisa… it does freak people out….
        that was funny.

    • M and M

      Mekaylah, I have been told that to help the process you can talk out loud as your brain is already trained to listen for a response that way. However, from my personal experience what seems most important is to get into a mind set that is most open and comfortable for you and ask your questions from there, whether it be verbal, mental, or written. I find I get the most beneficial info when running/hiking/cleaning- when the conscious mind is busy doing something it is familiar with and can be disengaged from the rest. Many years ago, after a close relative passed, I would hold conversations in my head by asking questions and just expecting answers while not filtering anything that I received. Whatever is most natural for you is most important.

  • JoAnn

    i find too that if i talk to spirit/higher-self/Erik/guardian angels or anyone not in human form atm” then it causes everyone around me to get disturbed by it,,,but i talk all the time inside my own mind and i listen and hope to hear/feel/smell,,,but usually i will just get a new understanding of the situation my mind is looking at. To all the family that do seem to be more in-focus with the spirit/energy world around us ,,i would love to hear from any of you new channelers or even ones that have been channeling b4 becoming a CE family member if at all they could ask Erik if He knows i have been looking for him and others as well,and just seem to be blinded or still half asleep. When i first found Elisa and Erik and all of the family here in cyber space it was a miracle for me and DID save my life,,,,,,i thank you all for any part we all played in that ,,,but i still want to know more and feel like i need someone to mediate for me,,,i have never been the one to volunteer first or try it first,,,,but with this i have had the courage and still hold onto that much,,,but i need help,,,,,,Love to You All,,,,also,,,i have a few people that know me (i am not very popular) and when i talk to them about things i know about “stuff” they all tell me i am not doing anything to help people or the world with my intellect and that i am wasting my gift on nothing,,,this fills me with another sense of failure and i am working on helping myself thruogh these feelings but it is a hard and lonely job and i need a helping hand to stay afloat sometimes ,,,,,so if any volunteers interested in helping me personally please say so,,,i will respond.

  • amy cavanaugh

    I too have a hard time finding Erik on my own-one thing that helped me was to imagine what it would be like to be in direct communication with him-when Jamie channels him-his personality and the tone of our relationship is very clear-but on my own-not so much-I am not a big fan of meditation-but it is the essential component of developing your gifts-hope i answered your question!!!

  • Lambert Scalvini

    Erik. You have performed a beautiful service for humanity. I have been filled with regret lately and am deeply empty spiritually. Please drop me a prank sometime if you can. You deserve to have our love and gratitude.

  • Breezy Parker

    A channeler I work with told me there are limitations to how they can manifest themselves to me and that at times need to get the red light from God to come thru in certain ways. For example I asked why my guides and mom wont give me an evp. I asked them why and they said somethings they need to discuss with God and get the Green light. The way I’m perceiving this is I’m not ready for that kind of communication yet, they said they are coming thru more and more but in little bits at a time, like first In dreams etc.

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