For all of you in and around Los Angeles, Jamie is having another wonderful event. It has nothing to do with Erik, but she’s a gifted teacher determined to help us learn how to communicate to spirit! Here’s the description and links:
Me: Yeah. Let’s do that, but let’s do it very briefly because I don’t want this to be so long that people go, “Eh, this is 30 minutes long. I don’t want to watch this video.” We all have short attention spans! So, was this a spiritual contract? If so, what was it?
Kim: Both boys jumped up and said, “Yes.”
Dylan: The contract was to raise awareness on youth. Our spiritual contract was to get more attention to youth and their upbringing as well as mental health and emotional issues—psychological issues geared toward youth—because that’s what we were. We were younger adults, and we targeted that age group so it was to bring awareness to school systems to help open their eyes not only to security but to the fact that emotional and psychological issues can start very young.
Kim: He’s showing me all the way down to kindergarten.
Dylan: Our contract was to open the eyes and bring awareness to mental health disease in youth.
Me: What should we do? Should we have additional gun controls? What do you think we can do, from your perspective as a spirit, to at least lessen the frequency of these mass shootings?
Dylan: Gun control might reduce the frequency, but it’s not going to cure the problem. What needs to happen is we need all children to have a voice. Now that’s hard because you have to keep order in a school system, but we’re so conditioned to think, “You’re in a school. Sit down and be quiet and listen to the teacher.” You can’t apply one thing to everybody and expect them all to absorb it the same way. Children and young adults need to have more of a voice, to be more expressive, to have more mental and psychological balance. If we can do this, you’re going to see less frequency of this. Kids get trapped and young adults get trapped in feeling misunderstood, feeling like they can’t say what they need to and then that frustration just festers.
Me: What about screening children in school for mental illness? There are all sorts of different screening tests.
Dylan: That would be a great idea right at the age of puberty because they’re mature enough to respond as needed to these tests. That would be a huge success.
Me: One last thing. I want to give you both a chance to say something to the families of your victims. Do you have any messages for them?
(Long pause)
Kim: They’re both crying and thanking you for giving them the opportunity. Phew!
Kim waves a hand over her face, clearly overwhelmed by their emotions.
Kim: Oh, they’re very emotional.
Me: And you’re picking up on that energy.
Kim: Yeah.
She tears up.
Dylan and Eric: First of all, for everybody watching this video, thanks for having the heart enough to watch. To the families: we know the hurt we’ve caused and the depth of it. We hope that you can see the meaning behind it, and we hope that you can forgive us in knowing that we didn’t understand who we were. We didn’t know how to deal with ourselves.
Kim: They’re speaking in synch. It’s fascinating how two different sounds are coming across at the same time.
Dylan and Eric: From the depths of our souls, we’re very sorry for hurting your family, and we’re very sorry for the hurt that we’ve caused ourselves.
Me: Have you had a chance to meet the victims on that side?
Kim: They said that they did. They showed me early on in the interview that it was gut wrenching, very gut wrenching because it was immediate. After they passed, they saw their victims.
Dylan: The reason it was so gut wrenching is because the victims were waiting for us. Of course there’s a bit of a shock factor, but they were waiting in understanding.
Kim: It’s like the victims were waiting for the boys to help them transition.
Me: Mm.
Dylan: It was gut wrenching knowing that we had just taken their lives, but here they are, still coming at us with love.
Me: Wow.
Dylan: It was beyond anything we could have prepared for.
Me: I guess that’s because they knew they were all a part of the same spiritual contract making sacrifices together. Is that right?
Dylan: Yeah, that’s why they were waiting in understanding—because they understood at the moment of transition that they were a part of this. This was a group contract, and that’s why they were waiting for us.
Me: All right. One last question. Erik—my Erik—can you ask a question?
Erik: To you or to the boys?
Me: To the boys.
Erik: I love this! If you could change one things about how this was viewed, what would you change?
Me: Hm, good!
Dylan and Eric: This is so heavily focused on guns that we forgot to pick up on what the underlying issues were—the mental health issues behind why it happened.
Dylan (holding up a gun): This is how it happened, but this is where their focus stopped. They looked at the guns and went, “Okay, we need more gun control.” They couldn’t see past that. We hope this can be viewed more as, “Look at what mental health issues can do. Look at how it can really explode in a negative way.”
Me: Yeah, it’s not the gun that kills people. It’s the person holding the gun who does.
Dylan: It’s the illness. Exactly.
Me: Okay. Well anything else before we close?
Erik (blowing kisses with both hands): I love you, Mom.
Me: Aw, he always does that! I love you, too, baby. Kisses back. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, thank you so much for having the courage to share your feelings and your ideas with the world.
Dylan: Thank you for giving us the opportunity to speak. We’re very grateful.
Me: All right. Bye!
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