Me: Does anyone know if animals, like our dogs, have their own guides and angels? Do they make blueprints for their lives, including exit points?
Erik: Yeah, they do make a blueprint for their life.
(Pause)
Me: Including exit points?
Erik: Yeah, and you’re going to laugh your ass off when you die and you realize that the animals, the souls of any kind of animal, the souls of trees, are treated equality to us.
Me: Cool.
Erik: A lot of people are going to feel like assholes.
Me: I know! I’m going to go out and hug a tree right after this call.
Jamie giggles.
Me: So, do they have their own angels and guides?
Erik: They have their own comm—Yes. Yes they do.
Me: What were you going to say?
Jamie (to Erik): What were you going to say, Erik?
Erik: They have their own ways to communicate with the afterlife, just like humans are figuring it out, so are they, but animals and trees are more driven by their sixth sense rather than—
Me: Their five senses?
Erik: Yeah, rather than humans, you know, how they pay attention to what they see.
Me: Wait. Rather than humans paying attention to what humans see?
Erik: Yeah, cuz humans, we’re naturally emotional beings but we’ve trained ourselves not to be tuned in to our sixth sense.
Me: Yes.
Erik: We’re robbing ourselves of that experience. Well, animals, trees, plant life haven’t done that. They’re still well attuned to their sixth sense. So the whole death and afterlife, it’s just a common knowledge thing. It’s not a world away like how the humans see it.
Me: Why didn’t they get “tainted” like we did?
(Long pause)
Jamie giggles at whatever Erik said.
Erik: Cuz they weren’t assholes that tried to rule the world.
Me: Yeah.
Erik: And gain an ego.
Me: So, when you have an ego, then you wanna control things. What does that have to do with losing sight of the existence of or the normalness of the afterlife, prophets and all that?
Erik: Well, it’s like big ego gets in the way of listening to natural instincts. Big ego likes to put logic as the most important thing. “I know best.” And when you get a human who has a big ego and then gets a following, then they get people who surrender their ego, and they say, “He knows best.”
Me: Instead of—
Erik: Listening to their own natural instincts. Just for the record, that is not how our spiritual leaders on Earth were when they were here.
Me: Oh no.
Erik: Jesus never pulled that shit.
Jamie bursts out laughing.
Jamie (still giggling): He just flashed an old red t-shirt, kind of torn a little bit, and on it is a bubble font in white, “Jesus doesn’t pull that shit.”
I roar in laughter.
Jamie: It was just a funny, quick picture.
Me: That’s another t-shirt we need to make. So, are animals, plants, trees, whatever, um, are they emotional beings too? Do they have any ego at all?
Erik: They don’t need to.
Me: What about that part of the ego that’s for survival, though?
Erik: Well, they have survival instincts, but it’s not about one knowing better than the other. They’re always linking into the whole. The dog is part of the pack. If a living creature doesn’t have a pack, they have a family, so they’re going to take care of the family. And they’ll quickly, on a dime, take care of themselves before anyone else. It’s something that we won’t do. We’ll go, “Oh we don’t deserve that. We should give that to someone else.” We punish ourselves.
Me: Yeah.
I guess in a way, although that seems like the opposite of the usual dysfunctional “ego trait”, this tactic is a defense against disappointment and hurt. That really is a way of putting oneself first. God I’ve just confused myself. Little help here, guys? I guess what I’m trying to figure out is this: Erik says we have an ego whereas other living creatures don’t, but they put themselves first when it comes to survival and we put ourselves second. This is counterintuitive.
Me: Is there a spiritual basis for why so many dogs and other animals are getting cancer?
Erik: Yeah, cuz they’re taking in on from their humans.
Me: Taking what? The negativity, the—
Erik: Yeah, the negativity, but sometimes they take on the actual cancer of their owner so that the owner doesn’t have to go through it. Isn’t it true that when a bunch of girls hang out they all get on the same cycle?
Me: Exactly. And how did you know that, Erik?
Erik: Uh, I do have sisters!
Me: True.
Erik: You know it’s just like you keep your dog around you all the time. Your dog is gonna sync up, link up to what your energy is doing, and your illness arrives, occurs, begins in your energetic field before it does in your physical body.
Me: Mm hm.
Erik: And then, boom. That’s how the pet gets it.
I wonder if this means we all need thorough check ups if one of our pets comes down with cancer or if he’s saying that our pets take on the illness so we don’t have to. Any ideas or anecdotes, people?
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