I’ll have to admit, I’m very nervous about posting this interview. Please know that I condemn the atrocities that Adolf Hitler committed, so please don’t shoot the messenger. This will be a four-part interview. As is usually in the case of these interviews, the first part starts a bit slowly because of the usual introductions and other niceties.
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Me: Erik, can you go get Adolf Hitler in here?
Jamie (nervously): Oh my god!
I giggle.
Erik: We’re really doing this?
Jamie: Yeah.
Me: Well, is it okay with you, Jamie?
Jamie: Mm hm.
(Long pause)
Jamie: Done.
Me: All right!
Jamie: No, he just left.
Me: Oh, he left.
Jamie: He was arguing with me. He goes, “I’m not going to go get him! You don’t treat him like an asshole. You treat him like a person. Don’t have any preconceptions.” And I was like, ‘Okay, fine, fine. I’m letting it go.’
Me: I’ve got some benign questions. I don’t have anything mean. (although he deserves to be raked over the coals for what he did.)
(Pause)
Jamie: I bet he doesn’t get called in for a lot of things for a casual discussion. He probably gets a lot of hate mail.
Me: Oh, poor guy.
I can’t believe I just said that, but…
(Long pause)
Jamie (to Erik): Yes, I’m ready!
Me: Oh?
Jamie: He just popped back in and said, “Are you ready?”
(Pause)
Jamie (to Erik, slightly irritated): Yeah, stop!
Me: It’s like, “Heeeeere’s Adolf!” instead of “Heeeeere’s Johnny!” and he comes out from the curtain.
Jamie: Oh my god.
(Pause)
Me: So, he’s there?
Jamie: Yeah, he’s here.
Me: Hello, Mr. Hitler. How are you doing?
Hitler: Fine, thank you.
Erik (to Hitler): Take a seat.
Me: What does he look like, and what’s his mood?
Jamie: He’s got very stiff posture. There’s nothing fluid about him. (In a hushed tone) Um, his eyes are really dark. His eyebrows are kind of sinking low like his eye sockets don’t have a lot of space. I don’t know if that makes sense.
Me (teasing): No, but go on.
Jamie: Droopy. Droopy eyebrows. You know, that skin above?
Me: Mm hm.
Jamie: He’s just looking out. I don’t think I’ve seen him blink yet!
Me: Wow. What is he wearing, a military uniform?
Jamie: No, it’s a dark, probably black suit, and he has a tie on underneath it with a kind of high collar.
Me: Okay.
Jamie: But the jacket is buttoned up, and there are several buttons to it. It’s not like a casual suit like we see today. He’s shorter than I thought he would be.
Me: Does he seem comfortable and relaxed now?
Jamie: No, he’s sitting straight up in the chair, very—
Me: Anxious? Nervous?
Jamie: Are you? No. He told me “no”.
Me: Oh, good. All right. Let’s start with the questions, then. Tell us about your childhood. Did it have anything to do with the atrocities you committed here on the earthly plane? I’m sorry’ I can’t think of another word.
Hitler: Every man’s life’s actions are based on how he was created.
Erik: So, is that a yes?
Jamie laughs.
Jamie: And you know what’s interesting? Erik is sitting on my side of the room. He’s next to me. Commonly, he stands next to the person we’re interviewing or sits next to them, but no, he’s on the same side of the room as I am. I almost feel like we’re interrogating him.
Me: Why is that, Erik?
Erik: I didn’t realize I did it.
Me: Okay. So, were there incidents in your childhood that caused you to do what you did?
Hitler: I never had much consistency in my family. There was not a lot of beauty. There was much disgrace within my family.
Me: What do you mean, skeletons in the closet?
Jamie and Erik giggle,
Jamie: Oh, Erik and I giggle at that, but he did NOT giggle.
Hitler: Yes. It is true that many lives in the family. I was displaced within my family.
Jamie: He’s saying he wasn’t raised by two traditional parents. The mother died, or the mother left?
Me: I don’t know.
Jamie: He’s showing me, as a child, he stopped having his mother. I can’t tell if she died or he moved. He’s not being very clear about it.
Hitler: I never thought I belonged to anyone. I was untethered, and I didn’t feel like I had any family or religion to lean on, not a country to feel a part of. I helped create that for myself.
Me: Ah!
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Adolf Hitler as a Child
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