Okay, the verdict is in. I’m ditching the GoPro in exchange for a Canon something or other. Whatever. My daughter, Kristina, recommended it. After playing around with the GoPro, it was clear that it’s mostly intended action shots, and my life isn’t exactly filled with action. No, I don’t need to get shots of my surfboard zipping across the waves before I wipe out. No, I don’t need to get shots of how my Ducati 1198 handles corner #2. No, I don’t need to film myself doing an Ollie on my skateboard. And no, I don’t need that weird fisheye view unless I want to mimic having some serious vision abnormality. If anything, I need a lens attachment perfected for filming things like bathing the dog, sipping my coffee or pounding away at my laptop. We’ll see how this new camera works. I’m getting it from Amazon tomorrow. I love Prime! Okay, here’s the last installment of this interview series!

Me: So what did your environment look like? Was it tropical, for example?

Atlantean: We had all forms of topography.

Me: Because it was so long and went all over the place?

Atlantean: Yes.

Me: But earthlike?

Atlantean: Yes, it looked like Earth.

Dur. I guess that’s because it was on Earth.

Atlantean: Some parts of the coastal areas looked similar to what you know as Hawaii today.

Me: Okay.

Atlantean: Then there were other parts that looked like the barren areas of Russia.

(Pause)

Robert: Oh wow!

Me: What?

Robert: He said in human mythology, Eden is Atlantis.

Me: Wow. Interesting!

Atlantean: Yes. In the Christian bible, when you talk of Eden, it is Atlantis.

Robert: Now that’s a new one to me!

Me: That’s cool.

Atlantean: No one knew where Atlantis was. It was always spoken of as Eden.

Me: Interesting. What did you eat?

Atlantean: Primarily a lot of plant foods. Most of us were vegans.

Me: Did you farm or forage?

Atlantean: Our culture was so varied. Some of us farmed; some of us foraged. Some of us did not need to eat.

Me: Interesting! I’ve heard of people here now who only subsist on energy.

Atlantean: As diverse as human beings are now, that is how diverse we were then.

Me: Okay.

Robert: I was asking him about alien species.

Me: Yeah, that was one of my questions! Did you have any relationship with aliens?

Atlantean: Yes. We shared information. We were friends with some species. There were some we were indifferent to, and they were indifferent to us, and there were some who were hostile that were not allowed to come near us or the entire planet. But Atlanteans never went off of the planet.

Me: Okay. I’d love to go into a lot of detail about that, but we’re running out of time! Tell us about your daily life there? Was it similar to what we have as humans now? Get up; eat breakfast; go to work, etc.

Atlantean: We were allowed to make choices for ourselves on Atlantis so we didn’t have a societal expectation to have a certain role or do certain things. You were allowed to find out for yourself. As you can imagine, that produced a diversity of ways to be.

Me: Okay.

Atlantean: Depending on the personality of the individual, some would coalesce together into communities while some would remain independent, dispersing throughout the culture. There weren’t any set rules or ways.

Me: Can you tell me anything special about the wildlife—plants, animals, etc.?

(Pause)

Robert: He’s trying to pull up one that we aren’t aware of.

Me: Okay. Yeah, anything we don’t have.

(Long pause)

Robert: The most interesting one, which was a favorite of his, looks like a fish, but it didn’t need to live in the water. It could live in the water or on land. They had them as pets! That sounds crazy as shit!

Robert laughs hard. He must be looking at a weird image from Mr. Atlantis.

Robert: It’s maybe twice the size of Bella (my 3-pound Yorkie) and has all of the colors all over it. He says they came in all sorts of colors. They kind of remind me a little bit of a Koi. It has that same kind of face.

Me: But when it wasn’t it water, what did it do, slither around on the ground or flop around?

Robert: He shows it walking on its fins!

Me: Walking on its fins?

Robert: It’s the weirdest looking thing! It kind of looks like a seal when it walks on its fins.

Me: Cool.

Robert: But it looks like a fish.

Me: What did you call them?

(Pause)

Robert: Let me write that word down.

I hear scribbling.

Robert: Okay, it’s weird. O-O-B-G-E. What a funky name.

Me: I’m not even going to try to pronounce that. Okay, really quickly, tell me one thing that you think might interest us about your government.

Atlantean (smiling): Our government was not an institution. It was—

Robert: Okay. He’s showing me these visuals. I don’t know what the right word would be but basically, every individual was a part of the government. It sounds very simplistic.

Me: Was it like a true democracy? Did everybody have an equal say?

Atlantean: Yes. You didn’t have people you elected who made the decisions for you. Everybody voted.

Robert: Erik and I were just talking about this a minute ago. Now I know why. It was just before you called.

Atlantean: Everybody made their own decisions. There was no unified set of laws. Whatever was right for you was right for society.

Me: Oh!

Atlantean: We didn’t have issues with—well, I can’t say we never had issues with it, but murder, for instance. In order for a society to have one person murder another, there has to be an element of fear and the desire to want to control someone else. Most of us didn’t have that fear. It’s not that murder didn’t happen. It did on rare occasion, but there was no punishment for it. There were inquiries about it. You were asked questions.

Robert (laughing): There was a lot of talking!

Atlantean: We talked to each other about it to try to understand why it happened and what the person’s intentions were. These discussions had a mix of analytics and creative heart language. And we wouldn’t try to change the person who committed the murder or another crime.

Me: So everything was pretty independent.

Atlantean: Completely independent, but yet we were dependent on each other.

Me: You mean there were connections and communications?

Atlantean: Yes. The way that we ran our society was what called attention from other species in the galaxy. We did things in ways that was so unique. Humans are going to evolve towards that way again.

Me: Oh, I hope so. What other technology would you like to share? Maybe you can tell us what you used as an energy source.

Atlantean: If you think in terms of human evolution, our evolution was on fast-forward. This was to set the stage for a slower evolution, later. We created new ways to capture energy and had other discoveries almost on a daily basis. Things that today’s human would consider to be something from the future we’ve already developed. One that is very interesting that humans now are only a few centuries away from developing—

Only a few centuries?

Atlantean: –is to harness zero point energy, that infinite energy source. We tapped into the energy that consciousness has dissipated throughout. It’s infinite and completely sustainable.

Me: Cool.

Atlantean: If they decide to, it will enable humans to transcend their bodies while still remaining attached to them if they want to. That way, they can remove themselves from Earth and go to a different planet without having to get on a ship.

Me: Physically?

Atlantean: Yes. It will be the thing that will enable humans to use wormholes as personal transporters.

Me: You mean zero point energy will make that possible?

Atlantean: Yes.

Me: Okay. Interesting. Anything else on technology?

Atlantean: That’s sufficient.

Me: Okay. Tell me about your origins and where you are now.

Robert: Where did they evolve from?

Me: Yeah, did they come from another planet or did they just come from Earth, for example?

Atlantean: We came from Earth. There were other civilizations that existed just prior to and simultaneously with Atlantis. A small number of humans were on a fast track of evolution, and most of the people in Atlantis and –

Robert: He’s saying something that starts with an L.

Me: Lemuria?

Robert: Yeah.

Atlantean: Those two civilizations were on a fast track. The purpose was to embed into human DNA where we would go in the future. It’s like telling the end of the story before you finish reading it.

Me: Where are you now, just in us?

Atlantean: The ones who left Atlantis to disperse among the rest of human beings on the planet, yes. They are within you. As for the rest of us, we’re in spirit we’re multidimensional. We’re just like you, but we’re aware of our multi-dimensionality, of our ability to be multidimensional beings.

Me: Okay. Is Atlantis related to all of the vortices found around the world? Did they use them as energy? Anything? In other words, is there any relationship between Atlantis and vortices?

Atlantean: These always existed. We did not create them, and we didn’t use them in any other way but observation.

Me: Okay. What about you, Erik? What’s your question?

Erik says something to Robert.

Robert (laughing): Erik, you have to ask a better question than that!

Me: Then you have to ask two!

Erik: Did y’all have pot?

Naturally.

Robert and I laugh hard.

Me: Well, I guess since they’re partiers that’s a good question, actually!

Robert: Erik, you should know that answer anyway.

Atlantean (smiling): What is your REAL question?

Robert and I laugh again.

Erik: In today’s society, we put labels on everybody, and when a person is different from other people, we say they have a disease. How did you get beyond that or did you need to?

Me: Great question, Erik.

Erik: How did you view disease? Actually, that’s my question. How did you view disease?

Atlantean: The human word disease comes from what Atlanteans define as “dis-ease.” It’s a lack of comfort. We understood the source of anything that causes degeneration is—

Robert: There’s a hummingbird looking at me!

Me: Cool! Is that you, Erik?

Robert: It went to my window and stopped and stared at me!

Me: Aw.

Robert: It’s beautiful! It got me distracted!

Erik: Yeah, that’s me, Mom.

Atlantean: We understood that whenever someone was ill in the way humans now would define as “ill” came from an energetic place and that energy is emotion. Emotion is nothing more than energy in motion.

Me: Ah!

Atlantean: We helped them address what those issues might be in a way that wasn’t about what WE needed to do. It was in a way that THEY needed it to be done.

Me: Ah, I see.

Atlantean: That is the mistake human beings of today make. They try to make others conform to what they want.

Erik: So you’re saying basically you didn’t impose your will on someone else?

Atlantean: That is correct.