Here’s the celebrity interview requested by the winner of the contest! Enjoy Celebrity Friday!

Me: I’d like to interview Farrah Fawcett. Can you bring her in, Erik?

Robert: Farrah is here, and she’s so sweet!

Me: Aw!

Robert: Oh, you just wanna hug her!

Me: She seems sweet!

Robert chuckles.

Me: Hi, Ms. Fawcett. How are you doing?

Farrah: I’m lovely. I’m as lovely as you are!

Me: And you are lovely, too! We want to learn a little bit about you. The first question I want to ask is why were you here? What was your spiritual mission?

Farrah: This is going to sound kind of funny because of what I did in life. It was to see my beauty.

Me: Ah!

Farrah: My inner beauty. I had this external beauty, which brought me a lot of things, but honestly, until I became famous, I never thought I was pretty, the pretty in the way everyone else seemed to go crazy for. It just wasn’t what I focused on.

Me: When you’re externally beautiful, it’s so hard to focus on your inner beauty. Do you think that’s why you came into this life as a beautiful woman?

Farrah: No kidding. The reason for that is because society puts so much attention on physical beauty.

Me: Yeah.

Farrah: There are a lot of people who are physically beautiful who, on the inside, aren’t quite so pretty. It’s to hide who they really are.

Me: So, you probably had to struggle to find your inner beauty. You could have just been complacent and thought, “Okay. I’m beautiful, so whatever. I don’t really have to work on my character.”

Farrah: Really, I didn’t have a low self-esteem.

Me: But when you’re pretty, you don’t always reflect on your inner beauty.

Robert: She’s saying that the person who wanted to call her up knows a lot about her personal history.

He’s talking about the winner of one of our contests who chose Farrah to be interviewed.

Robert: She shows me on image of her working with her hands like on a farm. I hope I’m interpreting the image right. Was she a farm girl or something?

Me: Oh, I don’t know. She seems like she would have been, kind of a homespun girl.

Robert: Yeah.

Farrah: My earlier years helped to ground me, and that grounding really made me not focus on myself too much as far as—

Robert: She’s not using the word, “narcissistic,” but I know what she means.

Me: Yeah, vain. Something like that.

Robert: Yeah. That’s the word. I couldn’t hear it. You know how you get static on the line? That’s the great thing. I don’t have to necessarily hear it. I can pick up on the energy of the word.

Me: Yeah. Words have energy just like Erik said.

Farrah: I’ve always loved animals, and that’s really the closest way I know how to describe myself. A dog, for instance, it can be beautiful, like have a beautiful coat and be a beautiful creature, but it doesn’t just sit there and think, “Oh, I’m so beautiful!” I related to that way of being.

Me: Did you become vain once you became famous?

Farrah: Honestly, I really wasn’t comfortable with fame.

Me: You know, I get that. I get that.

Farrah: It felt artificial. Well, it is artificial. When I first connected with it, I thought it was very intrusive. It didn’t’ respect people’s boundaries, and it just felt like you became a commodity, and it focused on what I didn’t focus on, which is my external self. It forced me to focus on that.

Me: Okay, so you were here to learn how to find your inner beauty. Were you here to teach anything? First, did you accomplish finding your inner beauty?

Farrah: Yes, I did. I absolutely did. That’s the reason why, at the end of my life—

Robert: I’m personally aware that she died of cancer, right?

Me: Mm hm.

Robert: But anyway, she’s bring up the documentary that showed her last days until she died.

Farrah: That was an expression of my inner beauty. I wanted people to see me exactly how I looked externally and how I felt internally. It was a miserable, terrible experience, but when you do that, it showed what a beautiful and courageous person you are.

Me: When you do what?

Farrah: When you completely show yourself as you are, no makeup, feeling bad, letting people know that you feel bad and it’s obvious on your face.

Me: And you let yourself become vulnerable, publically.

Farrah: Yeah, completely vulnerable. I never really had an issue with that completely, but that particular expression of vulnerability at the end of my life was just a different way of expressing it.

Me: Maybe you were here, in part, to teach people the value of vulnerability.

Farrah: Yes, but it was also to show, uh, a lot of the time, people, we’re very afraid of death.

Me: Mm hm.

Farrah: We just don’t want to look at it. We like to live in denial. Any time you see something on television that deals with death, it’s always put forth in this poignant way and made to look like this beautiful goodbye. It can be that way, but there’s another side to it which is filled with a lot of physical pain, coming to terms with your own fear, and the only reason that happens is we don’t allow ourselves, from a very early age, to be aware that that’s what it’s like when you cross over, you know, in some cases.

Me: Yeah.

Farrah: It mirrors, and not in every case, it can closely mirror our birth, because you come into this world from pain, and, in some cases, you exit this world in pain. Now, I don’t mean that this happens all the way up to the very end. Thank goodness for modern medicine! They have some great medicines to alleviate a lot of that suffering. Another thing that’s so wonderful is that even if we didn’t have the benefit of pain relievers like morphine, Dilaudid, you can also review all of your lives from birth to death. A lot of the lives when we didn’t have access to pain medicines, usually the last couple of hours—in most every life I lived, it felt like I was on pain medicine even though I wasn’t. I’m only saying that, because I know there are people out there who might be struggling with coming to terms with the death of a loved one for whatever reason, and it’s very rare for the last several hours of your life that you spend it in absolute agony.

Me: Thank god.

Farrah: It’s very rare. If it does happen, it was because there was some lesson to be learned from it.

Robert (touched): She’s so caring. It’s like she doesn’t want to make anybody upset.

Me: Aw.

Robert: She’s just looking at me and smiling like, “I can’t believe you interrupted me!”

Robert laughs.

Robert: I can tell that’s what she’s thinking.

Me: Well, do you think you accomplished that, teaching people—wait, what did you come here to teach? Was it something about death?

I giggle at my own addled mind.

Farrah: It really tied in with me seeing my inner beauty. Death, there’s really no difference between the two. It was about seeing the beauty of life, in general, and to understand that when we’re living our lives, we are life. That is us. We have to see the beauty in all aspects of it.

Me: Including death?

Farrah: Including death. Including pain.

Me: Oh, wow. How can pain be beautiful? What is the beauty in pain and the struggle associated with it?

Farrah: There’s really not one answer I can give you for that. It’s very subjective for each person. For some people, it’s to prove their strength, what they can get through. For other people, it’s about doing things on your own terms. For instance, if you’re going through a terminal illness, and you know it’s going to be painful, and you fight and you fight and you fight, you’re not giving in to the disease or the pain, so it’s on your own terms.

Kicking a painful death in the ass. Awesome. That’s really a lesson in embracing your power.

Me: Exactly. Why did you have to die from the kind of cancer you did, anal cancer? Was there any meaning to that?

(Pause as Robert listens)

Robert (chuckling): She’s making a joke. She totally means this to be funny.

Me: Well, say it!

Farrah: I got anal cancer, because Ryan was such a pain in the ass!

Robert and I laugh.

Farrah: I love him. I love him! He’s a wonderful man, and he’s one of the reasons I came here. I love the man!

Me: Oh, so y’all are soulmates?

Farrah: Oh, Absolutely.

Me: Aw. That’s so sweet.

Farrah: People misinterpret what a soulmate is. I don’t want to speak from everyone’s experience, but, for me, a soulmate is someone who challenges you, who helps you think of new ways of approaching things, and Ryan and I definitely challenged each other! I’ll admit that I was really, really good at knowing what Ryan needed to hear in order to get him out of whatever kind of mood he was in.

Me: You seem like kind of person. I can just tell. Very intuitive and empathic.

Farrah: Well, I was very good at that, and that’s what he helped me with. He helped me fine-tune that. It really takes a lot of intuition, because you have to connect emotionally with the person, and you have to not want to go with the emotion they’re projecting to you. You have to want to do the opposite of that, because that’s the only thing that will defuse a heated situation.

Robert: She’s talking about how she’d use humor and things like that.

Me: So, what you’re also saying it that you two had an agreement where he wanted to help you learn that lesson, so he gave you fodder for it. He behaved in a way that would allow you to apply those tools and fine-tune them. Is that what you’re saying?

Farrah: Yes, that’s right. We never come here to be a complete tyrant just for the sake of being a tyrant. There’s always an underlying purpose to why we do that. There are so many things that branch out from that experience. When you think about any great atrocities that were committed by a certain individual, it calls attention to that way of being in the human experience in order to help us decide whether or not we want to embrace that state within ourselves or choose something else.

Me: So, it helps us value the opposite.

Farrah: Yeah.

Me: Can you share another life you think may have influenced this last one?

Farrah: The lives that I’ve always been drawn to are those where I’m able to be physically active.

Robert: There’s one she’s showing me that was around the 1700s. I saw a woman, and she was washing clothes, but the way she was doing it was on one of those old style things where the clothes are soaked in water for awhile, and then theyr’e rubbed up against that grate thing.

Me: Oh, a washboard.

Robert: A washboard. Okay, yeah. Did they have those in the 1700s?

Me: They probably did.

Farrah: Those lives were preparing me to be grounded. That’s what physical activity for me did.

Me: So doing the wash that way was a type of physical activity, doing the laundry in that very physical way?

Farrah: Yes. It helped me to be grounded, to not get so into my head.

Me: Ah. Is that why you came into this life very grounded? Or did you?

Farrah: When you come here, you definitely choose the family you’re going to be born into because of what they can bring you, and whatever that family brings, it helps you to remember what is already within yourself.

Me: Ah! That’s so profound.

Robert: Well, it is very profound.  She’s a very profound woman, because, honestly, she’s speaking in the way that I never would have thought she would! She’s talking like she’s this wise teacher or something!

Erik: Dude, you’re saying that like it’s so sarcastic.

Robert: No! No! I’m not meaning it that way!

Me: Erik!

Robert: Oh, I know where he’s coming from.

Me: Yeah.

Robert: It’s just kind of surprising to me!

Me: So, Farrah, do you have any messages for us, for humanity as a whole?

Farrah: That you’re beautiful inside and out, every single one of you. I want to speak to all the blog members out there who don’t feel so pretty, males and females. It doesn’t matter what your gender is. So many are stuck and feel like they don’t fit in, that they aren’t pretty enough or handsome enough or able enough. That’s only because you become attached to your internal dialogue to what experiences have told you.

Me: So, a lot of external factors, including people, commercials, marketing, whatever—

Farrah: But those things happen not to beat you down. They’re there to remind you how to connect with your heart and funnel that up to your head and say to yourself, “That’s not true!” So, for all you people out there who just can’t see yourself and how beautiful you are, go look in the mirror, and you look at yourself, and I want you to promise me that you’ll find something positive to say about yourself every day. Do it! Please, for me.

Me: Aw. We’ll do anything for you, Farrah.

Farrah: And any time you have a negative thought that says you can’t do something or you’re not good enough, counter that with, “Yes, I can!” or “Yes, I am!” or “Yes, I will!”

Robert (to Farrah): You should be a preacher, honey!

Robert and I laugh.

Robert: I get chills!

Me: So, really, the external world, society, warps our internal dialogue, so we really have to look at it, become aware of it, be emotionally honest and say, “Wait a minute. That’s somebody else’s view of me. That’s not me!”

Farrah: You’re right, and the thing is we have to remember compassion, because anyone who’s treated that way regardless of whether you’re born into that experience, the broader lesson for everyone in general is that when you encounter someone like that, they’re giving you an opportunity to learn about compassion for someone outside you.

Me: That’s a great message.

Farrah: And for yourself. We don’t have a lot of compassion for ourselves. I know, because I witnessed that in people in my life.

Me: Yeah, I think we all have. Erik, do you have something to say? Is she still hot?

Robert (laughing): He’s blushing! It’s funny, because when it’s just him and me talking, he will say everything that’s on my mind, but then when he’s facing her, he’s blushing and looking down with his head turned sideways.

Erik: Yeah. She’s really pretty.

Me: Aw!

Robert (still laughing): He’s just acting so shy, and Farrah is pinching his cheeks and fiddling with his hair! It’s totally throwing him off!

Me: That’s so cute! Is there any you want to ask her, Erik?

(Pause)

Robert: He’s thinking about something.

Erik: I’m kind of enamored right now, Mom! Let me think of something.

(Very long pause)

Me: I hear crickets chirping.

Erik: If you had to do it all over again, would you still do television or movies?

Farrah: If I were living my life again, and I didn’t know what I know now, then I’d  say no, but hindsight is 20/20. Now, I’m glad that I did.

Me: That’s good! Well, Farrah, thank you so much