Today’s topic du jour is emotions…but the emotions of life forms other than humans, and I find that fascinating. Why? Because understanding the emotions of insects, plants, reptiles, birds, fish, amphibians, other mammals and non-humans makes me feel more connected to them. After all, they don’t speak human-ese, but emotion is a form of communication all its own and perhaps a more powerful one at that.
But first, I hope you all had a great weekend! We took our grand daughter, Arleen, camping in Galveston, but the weather was cold and nasty…until we picked up stakes to leave! Still, Arleen is a very social animal and met a ton of friends on the playground, all, unfortunately, from Oklahoma. Plus, we bundled her up and took her on a boat ride, and she loved that! Check out the shark ride:
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Now enjoy part one of non-human emotions. Fascinating subject and masterful channeling by Michelle Gray. Check her out HERE. Let me know if you hear any EVPs on this or other YouTubes. The transcript follows but please let the video roll a bit.
Elisa: Hi Michelle, how are you doing?
Michelle: I’m good Elisa, how are you?
Elisa: I’m doing great! You were telling me about an awesome dream you had with Erik, where you were able to actually look him the eyes and I was in there and an RV, all three of us together, sitting at a table and his eyes were sparkling and I turned to you and said doesn’t he have the most beautiful eyes? And he does, Erik you have beautiful eyes.
Erik: Thank you, Mama.
Michelle: He’s talking about them being your eyes.
Elisa: Yeah.
Michelle: Like your eyes.
Elisa: Yeah.
Michelle: Beautiful eyes like you.
Elisa: Before mine got all saggy. He’s got big eyes; his Dad has smaller eyes. All right, we are going to talk about, and we’ve brushed this subject a little bit but I kind of want to go into more depth because, I want to talk about emotions, right? And one of the things, you keep saying we are emotional beings can you go into more detail what the heck that means for people. Oh, and I love you, love you.
Erik: Before I start speaking tell my Mumma how much I love her.
Elisa: Awe.
Erik: I love you so much! Yeah, love, emotion, yes, we are emotional beings, we’re feeling beings first, that is how we receive information, is through our emotions. So, a lot of folks think or may have believed the way we have been taught through society, that the thought comes, the situation comes and the emotions reacts. It’s the other way around, it’s the what you feel first, it’s the emotion first and then creates the thought and that what’s many, many folks through the awakening process are discovering is that we really haven’t been taught the way our true being functions. We haven’t been taught.
Elisa: Why did we transition to where we go, pick a thought, have that provoke a feeling and make that feeling create an action or a decision? What happened and when did it happen?
Michelle: He’s going back to, is that Atlantis? Like way back.
Elisa: Oh, Wow!
Erik: We’re going back to the beginning of when we were ascended beings, when we were in the human body and we were able to manifest quickly, we were able to do things, that right now would seem magical and mystical and to some would seem impossible but truly is our pure form. There’s a mixture of things that have occurred, and part of this is there was.
Michelle: And he wants to be careful how he’s saying this.
Erik: This does and can spur off some conspiracy theories and I don’t want anyone to get heavily attached to this idea but there are other lower vibrational beings that for the sake of control.
Michelle: He’s talking they’re receiving energy.
Erik: They were vampiring energy.
Elisa: Oh.
Erik: Well it started to close us down.
Michelle: And he’s also talking about, the world had diminished this was gone and when we were reincarnated as a collective that the awareness was not there, that we as spirit had chose to incarnate without the awareness and he’s talking about this being about living many, many centuries as not having the awareness of who we truly were started, okay, just slow down just a little bit. He’s really going fast, he’s very excited about this topic.
Erik: Look at it this way.
Michelle: Okay, he’s going to give a little bit of an analogy to make this a little less complicated in how he’s going to say it.
Erik: If you can imagine this, let’s look at it this way, as Atlantian, the Lemairins being aware of our full selves, there were other beings that were coming to the earth, Star-beings, beings of other universes, this was the closing down.
Michelle: He’s saying trickery, like a trickery, it had to do with control, it had to do with where their earth was at so there is that element. That is why he said he wanted people to be careful about really adhering to that topic.
Elisa: Okay.
Erik: It is something that happened, so as Earth was rebuilt, as humanity was starting to move along, in human form they were not aware of who they truly were.
Elisa: (inaudible) Christ and Buddha, basically, they came without spiritual amnesia.
Erik: Yes, exactly. These beings, that came, Mom that’s exactly right, in spirit they sent beings or spirit in human form to show people, to show the other humans what was possible, what was available to them.
Elisa: Yes.
Erik: This is not an easy task and this is the journey of ascension.
Michelle: He’s circling our time, he’s got 2019 with a big star around it, saying currently we are in this awakening.
Erik: We could get into all the conversations of you know the agreements that were made, the volunteers that came into earth at different times, but the whole purpose for all of this has been to be able to show the world, to be able to show humanity.
Elisa: Uh-Oh, you muted, you got muted.
Michelle: Am I good?
Elisa: Yeah.
Michelle: Okay, okay, to be able to show humanity who we truly are.
Erik: There many different topics that can come from what we are talking about but this is the awakening time.
Elisa: Yeah, we should have a whole subject, maybe the next time you and I have a session, about the awakening and what that entails but it sounds like part of it is or maybe the main thrust of it is, going back to feeling first and thinking second, is that true before I ask another question?
Erik: Yes, yes absolutely Mom.
Elisa: How do emotions provide information; how does that happen and where does it happen? In the brain and in the soul? In the conscious? The subconscious? I don’t know, tell me.
Erik: So, it we look at our chakra system, if we look at the meridians, our energetic field, to understand this concept, first of all is to understand that we are all energy, everything is energy.
Elisa: Yeah.
Erik: And carry a frequency and a vibration.
Elisa: Including thought and emotions.
Erik: Yes, including thought and emotion, absolutely. Would you like an example?
Michelle: He was just showing me say sadness, something happened a created sadness.
Erik: Yeah sure.
Michelle: Or created some sort of desperation, so if we look at let’s say a situation or to make someone or someone reacted with sadness, so that’s coming in through the heart chakra, and being received by the right side of the brain.
Elisa: Okay.
Erik: So, that energy is then, if we’re consciously aware of what the trigger is, now this can get a little bit complicated as well, because what we’re doing is, we’re receiving an emotion that has a frequency, our energy field like a receiver, we are like a transistor radio with many different stations. We are able to receive this and here’s where we have this, Mom do you want me to continue on about talking about where it goes from there?
Elisa: Wait, hang on, can you move a little closer Michelle, because now it’s not triggering your face to come up, people will have to look my face, I’m sure they’d probably rather look at your face.
Michelle: How’s that?
Elisa: Well we’ll see, if you talk if your picture comes in, and what’s going on with my hair, man, God. Okay, never mind.
(laughing)
Erik: Mom, do you want me to go forward and just explain what happens when somebody either a) doesn’t recognize the emotion or shoves it down, or compared to being consciously aware to it? Would you like to know those differences?
Elisa: Just give me the short version but dumb it down because I do want to ask about emotions in other species, real quick.
Erik: Let’s keep on with the idea, that we are a transistor radio, that we have all these different frequencies and dials that we consciously can be aware of and we are able to understand our emotions in this way. If say the sadness emotion comes in, a person is not consciously aware at what is making them sad, there may be an outside trigger that makes them sad, but that sadness could be really from some guilt or some pain that had happened from something before or even in a past life. If that person were to unconsciously take that sadness and it had something there for them that they needed to understand so that they could release it, and not carry it, that vibration, that frequency, that energy then is received and stored in the chakra systems, which in turn stores into our body. This is where we talk the dis-ease that we feel, then turns to the disease in the body when it is not recognized when it is not released and understood. Someone that is consciously aware of it has then the opportunity when an emotion comes forward, their able to say, is this mine? Is this somebody else’s? Is this even something that I need to focus on, if it is something that needs to be focused on then that person then has that opportunity to figure out is it something that was from before, to go down that path to be able to release it and to heal. Many people are experiencing this very scenario right now.
Elisa: Okay. Interesting, fascinating. Okay, well let’s talk about how our emotions differ from the rest of the animal and plant kingdoms, I mean what sets us apart? And then I’ll talk about, yeah well let’s start out with that, but then I will ask about bird emotions, and things like that.
Erik: What sets us apart, when you’re looking at species on the earth, is the consciousness, so the consciousness and the awareness, like when you had said a plant and animal, a plant does not have an awareness of itself, it is a life force but it doesn’t have an awareness of itself, so the plant is not going to cry if you pull a leaf off.
Elisa: But it’s said that they have emotions, I mean I saw that thing, the secret world of plants, and they had these measuring things on them and when a scientist comes and rips up their little friend, they like essentially scream.
Erik: It’s not to the degree, there’s lifeforce, it’s not that there isn’t anything there but they can only go so far.
Elisa: Okay.
Erik: It isn’t the same way.
Elisa: Emotions are different, for humans compared to other things, is because we are self aware of our emotions, is that what you’re trying to say?
Erik: We have the awareness of it, there are some animals, we’ll talk about this Mom, when we talk about the different species, but there are some animals that do sense emotions slightly different than others or are more aware of themselves than others and we could also talk about animals that are domesticated, that are able to grow with their emotions because of the relationship they have with their human counterparts.
Elisa: Okay, well okay, we’ll get to that one at a time but, so why do we need/have emotions anyway? Because they can be very painful sometimes, but they can be good too, so why do humans have emotions?
Erik: Hell, ya then can be painful, absolutely they can and he says here’s the tricky part is that we need the emotions, we need to be able to feel, that’s what we’re here for, that’s what we came here for. We’re here for the contrast, we’re here for the experience and the experience is actually the having not judging good or bad, but to be able to feel the emotions and to be able to experience them regardless of where on the scale that they are.
Elisa: Okay.
Erik: Everything is an experience. With emotions comes the growth, so when one is pushing those emotions away, pushing them down, covering them up or self-medicating through substance abuse or anything else like that, then they are not in like with what they’re really here to do and that’s where all the resistance starts to come in one’s life.
Michelle: He’s showing me like a big city and he’s showing me this big tower in the middle.
Erik: Emotions are the great big staple, the big Empire State Building. It’s what we are, it’s who we are, it’s why we’re here and having the emotions and the experiences is what gives us the greatest amount of growth. We’re not able in spirit to have the same contrast, we can’t have that same experience that we can have here on earth.
Elisa: I am going to ask that, next but, you know it’s interesting that you say about self-medicating and drug abuse because I’ve heard from lots of different people that specialize in substance abuse that when a person is addicted to substances or whatever when they do go through rehab and they’re fine, they off it, they’re sober, they’re still stuck in that emotional age, if they started when they were 14, their emotional age is like that of a 14 year old, so no growth.
Erik: That’s right Mom, because what’s happening is when one starts to self-medicate themselves, it’s like a blanket’s being put over top of them. It starts to help them and energetically it is putting them into a cycle, a repeating cycle, so these emotions keep coming up, keep coming up because really what’s happening is it’s your innate self screaming out, saying hey, feel me, feel me, feel me. You need to feel me and because that causes one so much deep pain its regardless of what it is. Let’s look at an example of a person, and he may have been this person or are this person or know somebody that it is, and that’s okay, but you know the person that keeps saying, why does this always happen to me? It doesn’t matter what it is, I’m continuously having the same thing.
Elisa: I’ve said that before, in regards to betrayal. Why do people always betray me when, not always?
Erik: It’s very normal because you don’t know.
Elisa: Yeah.
Erik: Now if we take that and we understand that, when we don’t have the awareness of what actually is happening to us and what we are doing, because involves a lot of traction, this is all of it combined together. It all works with our emotions, so if we’re not aware, we’re going to be in that cycle over and over, and it’s bringing, we’re meeting experiences in the world that are of the same flavour, it’s going to have the same vibration to it because that’s where we are. It’s really as simple as that, it really is about emotion, vibration and about the focus into that and the understanding that we do have the control ourselves to make a choice to move out of that.
Elisa: Right.
Erik: I’m not diminishing the pain, because when one person is in a cycle of pain, they are consistently throwing out an S.O.S, everywhere.
Elisa: Yeah.
Erik: And may not understand or be ready to actually receive the help.
Elisa: But then you attract the same, and you attract dis-ease and all that stuff but I can see how emotions, I mean you have to have to have them in order to have that contrast and you have to get pissed off that somebody betrayed you, so that you can really, it must embed it in your soul when you overcome that and forgive. All right so how do emotions change after we die, how is its different like with you Erik.
Michelle: He’s talking about when he first passed.
Erik: The very first thing that I felt because I was still very close to my human self, in that very first bit was the regret, was the pain of not fully understanding the full capacity of what had happened.
Michelle: He’s saying that was, he’s not calling it a really heavy emotion but it was, he could compare it to how we would feel in concern, when we’re really concerned.
Elisa: Yeah.
Michelle: That’s how it felt to him.
Erik: It wasn’t long after, that I was lifted to a very different place.
Michelle: He’s also saying that for him this was his path, so this was what he was meant to do, so his healing process and how he moved to that was said different from another spirit in the same situation because of what his destiny, his however we want to call it.
Elisa: His spiritual contract, yeah.
Michelle: Yes, yes.
Elisa: That must have been so hard for you to see the pain in the family, at least at first and then when you were able to lift yourself up to that different perspective.
Erik: I felt responsible, Mom. I felt like I needed to correct it and it was a gradual understanding but I did become more and more encapsulated with knowing.
Elisa: Okay.
Erik: And understanding of the bigger picture. It wasn’t long after that my entire being was completely lifted, in spirit for myself, I do lower my vibration and I am able to do so for the purpose of what his spiritual contract to what I do but I might be able to feel or know where somebody is at to understand the depth of what they’re going through but I don’t need to have the experience.
Elisa: Right, I mean you probably don’t feel the intensity of say depression or despair, I mean you’ve told us before is that it’s so hard to hold on to negative emotions, it’s like trying to grab greased monkey bars and hang on.
Erik: It’s like having butter fingers, and an ice cube, it’s just not tangible, we experience a blip.
Elisa: Yeah.
Erik: We can choose to experience it if we would like to, we can move into that experience for a blip if we choose to but it’s not necessary because with the greater understanding and with our higher vibration, well, more expanded vibration, we come from a place of compassion and love because when somebody is in that vibration and we are going to assist that one, we understand, we know, myself and where I’ve been, I understand as a human being, I know how fucking hard it is, I know.
Elisa: Yeah.
Erik: So, that’s why I am Erik, that’s why I do this the way I do.
Elisa: And that’s why you’re so good at what you do, you do understand the really negative, crippling emotions, so.
Erik: I do. Sometimes some people.
Michelle: He wants to address this, because there are some people that feel like they are going through some really hard times in life.
Erik: When I’m being translated, I might, I’m using humour or I’m very passionate and my messages are coming through with such passion and intensity and joy or what’s being translated can sometimes be misunderstood into thinking that I don’t understand, or that I forget that and that’s not true.
Michelle: He wants to make sure that each and every person knows that he does understand.
Elisa: That’s really good to know, I didn’t think about that but that’s so true, but you can feel any positive emotions, right? Like you’re probably, are you in the constant state of joy or rapture or?
Erik: A state of serenity.
Michelle: Okay, he’s trying to give me an example of something that, okay, all right. So, he’s giving me an example of something that I feel, he’s telling me explain to them, something that you feel and this will give an idea. So, I have this, something that I’ve always said, it’s my brother and I have always talked about it, it’s this Sunday afternoon feeling, it’s the feeling of knowing that all the laundry’s done, the house is clean, supper’s cooking, my kids are together, my family’s here, I feel good, I know everything’s done, it’s that place in life, where you.
Elisa: Right. Everything’s checked off the list!
Erik: It’s that feeling and there can be measures of intensity to that.
Elisa: Okay, all right so let’s talk about different animals. Describe the emotions of most mammals that are not us, and then we’ll separately talk about, because I think maybe they are in a different category, I’m not sure, dolphins, horses, chips/gorillas and domesticated animals, but as a general rule most mammals how are their emotions?
Erik: Most mammals have a heart connection, it’s different than the human being because again we get into a talk about the awareness, about the consciousness and there is an instinct that animals have such as they feel a bond and it is an instinctive love. So, it is a little different than how we would describe love.
Elisa: Okay.
Erik: It’s instinctive so he says let’s give an example of a deer.
Michelle: He’s showing me a deer in the woods.
Elisa: I don’t know why your face is not showing up. I had to sit there and look at my face with my funky hair sticking up.
Michelle: Okay let me move myself a little bit more.
Elisa: I don’t know if it’s that, maybe it’s a sensitivity thing, I have to look at the settings, sorry. I’m tired of looking at me.
Erik: If we look at say a mother deer that gives birth to a fawn and she’s caring for that little fawn, you know we’ve seen many little instances where we see a deer crossing the street or a duck and the little ducklings follow along behind the mother and we think as human beings awe that is so cute, look at the love, look at how that Mumma duck makes sure each one of those babies gets across the street. Look at how that Mumma deer is cleaning her little fawn and looking for that fawn to lay it down. Yes, there is a love but it’s an instinctive love.
Elisa: Okay.
Erik: It’s a protective, a nurtured but it is also goes through its own evolution because eventually that little duck like we do as well, starts to move on its own and separate. So, it’s not common, not that it never happens but it’s not common for an adult mammal in the wild to stay with the adult, unless it’s part of their pack, like to stay with the mother.
Elisa: Yeah. What about animals that mate for life? Is there any like soul mate connection there or is it just the same thing, sort of instinctual love?
Erik: There can be different levels of intensity, and I want to say this too, there’s also circumstances too, because this really isn’t a black and white answer. Emotions are complex, so even though we say the awareness and how animals are slightly different but they do have the potential and the capacity to evolve and to grow. Many mammals have that ability to relate to another counterpart, to be able to evolve but when they’re in the wild they stay more instinctual because they’re not aware of any different.
Elisa: Okay.
Erik: They’re not aware that there is, I want to add this in too, keep in mind that as being we have had many incarnations or incarnations that are going on and we have experienced that very same life, we have had lives as mammals and as different beings/creatures and there are soul contracts in animals to be able to mate and bond. There are soul contracts that exist that this is why this isn’t a black and white answer.
Elisa: Okay.
Erik: Because this is how we may see, 2 animals in the wild, like birds and people have seen these 2 birds are together, they come back every year or the story about you know they’ve tagged 2 animals in the wild and found them together so many years later or something like that. Human beings, part of that is also spiritual contract for the human beings to observe this because they are meant to have the experiences to open up the awareness of ourselves and for evolution.
Elisa: So, in the wild at least they don’t really need emotions to evolve and grow like we do, right? For the contract?
Erik: Right.
Elisa: Can they feel sad? In the same way that we do or is it different?
Erik: Yes, they can.
Elisa: I know they can feel anger but that is probably a survival mechanism.
Erik: So, it is more, instinctual. They can despair, they can miss a mate, it also depends more on the species because when we speak about an instinct level there are some species.
Michelle: And he is showing me a grasshopper.
Erik: A grasshopper really couldn’t give two fucks what happens to them.
Elisa: But I know elephants, I think elephant can and crows and stuff, they creep funerals.
Erik: Yes, so when we talk about dolphins and gorillas and chimpanzees, elephants and they’re learning capacity, is different, they are closer to the human structure. It’s not always there, it’s not always present.
Elisa: What’s not always present?
Michelle: Well that in every situation, like with instinct, he’s showing me elephants and he’s saying that not because there are certain things that they do and they do have a mourning but he’s talking about different mammals having different like a pack mentality, like something they do as a pack, like he’s saying that it’s more instinctual. Animal has more of an instinct of doing like this is what we do because we know to do it but that they don’t go home or back to a den or back to a log and necessarily mourn for days but it’s not that it can’t happen.
Elisa: Wow! All right so what, how does sadness and mourning, how does that serve them? You know from the standpoint of survival, or does it?
Erik: It’s more of something that has the experience of, so say we have soul mates because soul mate connections happen in animals, we incarnate with all of these different ideas, so it’s more for the soul’s growth.
Elisa: Oh!
Erik: So, if you imagine the soul, so it may not be something that’s happening, knowingly as a lesson for an animal but there is still a soul growth to it, there is still an experience that’s happening because every incarnation that we have has some sort of. Right from a firefly, everything has a reason for it, a soul growth to it, even though the human experience is the golden ticket.
Elisa: Yeah.
Erik: For expansion, but it’s all part of evolution.
Elisa: So, what if you’re a human and you’ve expanded to a certain point and then you become a turtle, what is that turtle going to be like? Is their soul going to be very expanded, is it like in a smoking jacket with a pipe, reading news day, you know?
Michelle: (laughing) That’s so funny.
Erik: Mom, but that’s thinking very linear as well.
Elisa: So, true.
Michelle: He’s using your wheel and spoke.
Elisa: Okay.
Erik: So, if we’ve got our wheel and we’ve got our spokes of all of our lives, and their truthfully stacked on top of each other, they are truthfully happening all at once and each one is an experience that can be tapped into.
Elisa: Yes.
Erik: What a soul has learned, grown from, from every experience is stored up in their higher self, in their over soul.
Elisa: Which is a hub,
Erik: Yes.
Elisa: You all can look up, search wagon wheel, in the search bar in the top right-hand corner of the blog if you want, to find more information or sometimes he describes lives as a stack of books and we just happen to be pulling out one and reading the one now, but all of the others are still there past and future.
Erik: Yes.
Michelle: He’s talking about this time right now, because this wasn’t always available to this degree, energetically. The energy that we are in right now, for many different reasons that we’ve been talking about with ascension and everything.
Erik: The energy right now allows us as human beings if we choose to because we all have free will to tap into any of our lives at any time and to be able to bring that wisdom forward, and even though as human beings we may not consciously understand what it is we’re pulling our, but we understand what we want to know. We’re looking for the wisdom, we’re looking to connect with the wisdom, our higher self knows where to find that.
Elisa: Okay.
Erik: It’s important to know that we can all do that, when we’re thinking about, using past lives is really not the best description for what it is. It’s more like existing lives, other lives because they’re technically all happening at once.
Elisa: Right now. All right, one more question and I think what we’ll do is a part two where we can talk about the different animals. Do you want to discuss anymore, we’ve discussed love and sadness, despair and mourning, are there any other emotions that mammals have that you want to elucidate for us? Or would that just give us the picture we need.
Erik: If we go a little further, we’re going to get pretty in-depth, we could down that but the basic understanding and just adding anger on there too and that goes along with what I was talking about because it is all kind of the same idea with the different emotions with them. No, Mom, I think we’ve pretty much covered that part, we’re good.
Elisa: Okay, so basically, it’s all instinct driven, mammals are not as aware of the meaning behind their emotions or what was that, as humans are.
Erik: They’re not as consciously aware of themselves or say the full picture why although that does, so as we get into evolution of animals and what they’re able to understand, some do because they’ve had some human interaction.
Elisa: Okay, sounds great! You guys, thank you so much. This was really interesting, huh?
Michelle: This was interesting, I love this conversation.
Elisa: Yeah, and different animals and we’ll have a different session on awakening, ascension and all that stuff, it would be fun to do together. All right so you guys, check out Michelle at thehealingh-art.com and I’ll put it right here. Thank you, Erik, I love you, and Oh, Erik, somebody’s been really working well on my back, my lower back pain and they said that.
Erik: I love you Mom.
Elisa: Awe. I need to, somebody needs to open up my heart chakra, was that something you and all your cronies over there can do, can work on? Or do you want me to go and have somebody else do it, remotely?
Erik: Yeah. Having a remote session, would help you Mom.
Elisa: Okay.
Erik: That would be good. Lay down at night or when you can have a little bit of quiet, when you’re not too sleepy, don’t do this when you’re just ready to fall asleep.
Elisa: Okay.
Erik: If you can get yourself quiet, do it later in the day, because you are going to relax more.
Elisa: Okay.
Erik: If you do it too early it’s not. Just call me in and ask me to start working on your heart, say Erik come on in and start working on the heart chakra.
Michelle: Because he’s showing me putting energy over it.
Erik: You will feel some physical sensation, in that area, some warmth and we can practice that, if you want Mom. You only need 4 or 5 minutes a day, if you can do that and we can practice that together.
Elisa: Okay, sounds good, thank you, I love you, I love you Michelle, until later. Bye everybody, be sure you subscribe to the channel so you get notifications of new ones and also for things that are not in YouTube format, check out the blog Channelling Erik with a K because there is a whole bunch of stuff, including the stuff about time and everything before I started to go ahead and start doing YouTubes, so see you later guys.
Michelle: Bye.
Elisa: Bye-Bye
Michelle: Bye.
