Me: Today I want to talk about something that’s very important in our western culture. I know you usually slam down on the western culture, and this is one of the ones you’re going to do it for, but people want money. They want abundance. They want to have nice things. They want their private jets, their yachts, their expensive jewelry and all that. Tell me a little bit about what your thoughts are.
Jamie: When he’s done singing ABBAs “Money, money, money,” we’ll have a conversation.
She moves her finger back and forth to show that Erik is pacing.
Me: That’s his father’s favorite bands.
Actually, just one of them.
Me: I’m so sick of them after he’s played them so much. Okay. Go ahead.
Jamie: Sit down, Erik. All right, so he’s sitting behind the camera, now.
Erik: It’s—
Jamie (looking lost): Um, start over, Erik. What did you say?
Erik: We’re going to talk about different qualities of money. You were talking about want. They want the jet, they want the this, they want the that, dat, dat, dat. There are different kinds of wants. There are wants that relate to goal setting. Let’s say if you’re a movie producer and it’s your goal to work worldwide. Then having the jet would help benefit the career. Does that make sense?
Me: Yeah.
Erik: You’re looking around like you’re lost, Mama.
Me: No, I hear a dog. I hope she’s not getting into the litter box. They love cat poop. They really do! Gidget, no! Sorry for the interruption. Gotta talk about cat poop!
Jamie’s laughing the whole time.
Erik: And then there are those people who want it, want it, want it, but it’s really for self-serving, ego purposes. They’re wanting it without any consideration for the Whole, and the Whole is knowing that they’re not a separate identity. They’re unified with every, every energy everywhere. So if they’re not aware of that concept, and they’re saying, “I want it; I want it; I want it,” then it could be taking or destroying the environment or people around them. So if you’re wanting it with the idea and the care of the Whole, then watch. As you’re receiving, you’re going to be benefitting your environment, the people around you. You’re going to be raising them up to where they want to choose to be, where they desire to be as well. That’s a healthy use of (singing) money, money, money.
Jamie: The song by ABBA. He’s singing it again. I’m not going to sing it.
Me: Come on. You know you want to!
Jamie giggles.
Me: Well, give me an example of how you could tailor these wants in a way that respects the Whole.
Jamie: Oh, he’s going to Angelina Jolie.
Me: Okay.
Jamie: He’s talking about her having her jets, her bulk of money, her worldly knowledge—everywhere she goes she learns something—and she looks at their culture, their needs, how they’re working, and she’s not trying to make them be equal to America or have American standards. She’s looking at, “What does that culture, that village, aspire to have for themselves,” and she gives to them to meet those needs. Where we fuck up is when we say, “Oh man, I have this, and it’s the best. Everyone should have it.” That’s a fucking crock of shit turned on high and left overnight.
Jamie laughs hard and waves her hand apologetically.
Jamie: I’m sorry! I’m sorry.
Me: Oh, Erik! There goes my breakfast.
Jamie’s completely red and still laughing.
Jamie: I think that has to be one of the worst visuals! I’m gagging.
She leans to the side. I can hear gagging noises like she’s throwing up. That’s pretty bad.
Me: So he sent you a visual?
Jamie nods her head.
Me: Ew.
Jamie (pointing to her face): Look, I’m tearing—
Again, she’s bending to the side, gagging.
Jamie: Erik, you’ve gotta stop that!
Me: Stop it, Erik!
Jamie: It’s embarrassing!
Her face in on the screen again, and she’s wiping the tears from her eyes.
Me: It looks like you were really gagging!
Jamie: I can’t think about what he’s showing me.
She makes gagging noises again.
Me (realizing that the gagging is real): Oh my god! You are gagging!
Jamie (laughing): You gotta change the topic!
Me: Okay. Okay. Quick, quick. He’s not sending any smells, right?
Jamie (with a look of disgust): Thank god, no!
Me: Oh, good. We’re going to talk a little more about this. So how do they find, uh, you said it’s okay to desire possessions and wealth and other forms of abundance as long as you keep the Whole in mind.
Erik: Yes. If you understand—
Jamie is still red, shaking her head and wiping her eyes as she translates.
Me: Shake it off, Jamie! Rub dirt in it!
Jamie: I’m trying! That was the worst. You’ve just seen the worst right there.
Me: And that says a lot.
Jamie (nodding): Mm.
Me: So you’re saying it’s okay as long as you keep the Whole in mind and do not gain abundance while hurting others, including the environment—sacrificing others and the environment.
Erik: Oh my god, Mom. You made the best, best point. If it means sacrificing the environment, it’s not worth it. The environment is almost more important than we are. If we don’t save the environment and save her—
Jamie: He means Mother Earth.
Erik: –then we’re not going to have a chance to be here much longer. And there are some people with great wealth that are doing this, that recognize it. I think the biggest weakness in our culture is the stepping up phase. Those people who have been without who fight so hard to have—and put your own definitions into that. I’m just talking about the process of going from being without to having. There’s a moment of almost abuse of the situation when you start to “have” it because you go, “I’ve been so long without. My family never had. The history of my family never had. Now I’ve done it, and I’m going to do whatever I want to do.” That’s our most dangerous point when we’re really not paying attention to the unity of everything.
Me: Mm hm.
Erik: So when I’m speaking about those who have their wealth and understand how to give and support and grow and encourage others to be that way, normally, they’ve already gone through that transition, or their family already had the money and they grew up that way and understand how to give back. There are going to be some exceptions, but when you come across someone who’s in that transitional moment, they finally have everything and they go, “Oh I don’t care. I’ll guzzle up all the gas. It’s not my generation. It’s going to be the next that suffers.” There are many, many people like that. “Oh, I’ll make a shitload of trash. Who fucking cares? It’s not going to be in my fucking lifetime. I’m golden.”
Me: Oof.
Erik: When you come across these people, love them.
Damn, I was going to say give them a royal ass whooping.
Erik: That’s all you really can do. Love them. Give them a hug.
Me: They are part of the collective, after all.
Erik (laughing): Yes, and then, behind their back—
Jamie and I laugh.
Erik: Wrap them with white light and help them energetically see the woe and destruction they cause in their environment. If they’re careless this way, they’re also going to be careless with people, careless with animals, because nothings going to happen in their lifetime.
Me: They’re probably careless with themselves, too.
Erik: Yes. They’re not going to protect the elephants because they’re going to be around for their lifetime. The next generation, they might not have them, but that’s okay. It’s not okay. We really need to all band together. So behind their backs, wrap them in white light and say a little something like, “God, Higher Self, Buddha, Krishna, Jesus—whoever you say your prayer to or have your belief system into—when they go to sleep at night, please show them the destruction. Please show them how careless they’ve been.”
Me: Mm.
Erik: Then they get that feedback when they’re resting, they can achieve their transition and grow into identifying that we’re all part of the Whole.
Part Two tomorrow, guys. Meanwhile, send me some healing energy! I’m stove up with a nasty virus: fever, no voice, coughing up crap, feeling like I’ve been run over by a Peterbilt. Ugh. I have two radio shows: one Thursday and one Friday. I need my voice to come back! Meanwhile, here are some funny cartoons:
I always thought you couldn’t buy it.
