Today is a busy day! I have a session with Jamie for our next YouTube. I also have a radio interview with Wisdom from the North’s host, Jannecke Øinæs at 2:00 PM CT. If you check on my Events page, you’ll see the link to the podcast, but I’m not sure if it’ll be ready today or tomorrow. Then I have a long conference call with my publicist right after that. Add those to finishing up laundry, taking Bella to the groomer’s, picking up her friend and half-sister, Gidget for a playdate, getting groceries and other things makes for supreme craziness. I will say this. I greatly admire anyone who can fold fitted sheets. When I do it (after fighting to get a lumped up towel or two twisted into one of the sheet corners, it looks like absolute crap. Oh well. Oh, and I see my husband left some sewing for me to do today. I bet Madalyn never had to fold fitted sheets or sew on buttons. Or did she. I should have asked. 

Me: Is that why you decided to come today to be interviewed? Was it to send a message to some of the blog members?

Madalyn: My initial reason was to tell you what my definition of an atheist is and to get my point across. I also wanted to let you know –

Erik (to Madalyn): Tell her what you told me!

Madalyn: Okay. And I can’t stand it when someone misinterprets who I am as a person.

Me: Sure.

Madalyn: When I refused to be interviewed last time, I could feel that from a lot of people. Maybe I took offense to it.

Me: Sure.

Madalyn: Spirits can get angry.

Me: But it’s different, right?

Robert started saying “He says” and interrupts himself.

Robert: You know why I keep saying, “he?” Because she comes off as very masculine.

Me: Yes, of course. I think she may have been a lesbian.

Robert: Oh, okay.

Me: We won’t ask, though. That’s her personal business.

Robert asks me to refresh his memory because he’s totally lost. I do and he proceeds.

Madalyn: Now do you remember, Robert?

Robert (laughing): Yes I do! She acts almost a little annoyed!

Me: You’ve got spunk! I like that.

Madalyn: Hell, yeah.

Robert: She likes to cuss.

Me: You remind me of my mom.

Madalyn: I get irritated when people believe what they’re told and go through this whole experience of letting the blind lead the blind. Then they misinterpret things. They never step back and assess for themselves. It makes me angry when they don’t really see the truth. That’s what I was trying to teach people when I was in my physical life. Find your truth, and the truth isn’t always what I say it is. It’s what you know it to be when you’ve wiped the slate clean of what everyone else has told you, and you stop and think from your own unique vantage point.

Now I understand why she didn’t like the idea of a God directing all of us peons on Earth.

Me: You define your own truth.

Madalyn: Exactly.

Me: Do you think that was your main spiritual mission, not limited to the whole atheist activism?

Madalyn: I’d say so.

Me: Okay.

Madalyn: I lived in my truth without fear. Up until the very end, I was not afraid.

Robert: I like her. She makes me feel confident. Sometimes I can have an issue with confidence.

Madalyn: Sometimes?

Robert laughs.

Me: Do you think you succeeded in your mission?

Madalyn: The whole success/failure thing, I don’t buy into it. I just did what I came here to do. I’m pretty happy with the results.

Me: Okay, good. You’re very black and white.

Robert: Yes, she is, isn’t she?

Me: Mm hm.

Madalyn: Well sure.

Me: So you had this dominating, very assertive side to you. Were there any other sides to you? For example, did you have a nurturing side or any other side that you’d like to share with the world?

Madalyn: Everyone always associates that domineering thing with not being nurturing, but I saw it as very nurturing.

Me: Can you explain?

Madalyn: Because I’m teaching you to take care of yourself. All these other labels people use like tough love to break people down—that was never my intention. The only reason you may take offense to something is because you’ve heard it from somewhere else that that’s not how you’re supposed to be. You have to be nice and quiet and gentle.

Robert: She shows this person walking on eggshells.

Madalyn: Or to be so worried about everyone else’s feelings. Well those are their feelings. They have to own up to their reaction to what I say.

Me: So we have to completely separate our feelings from those of the ones around us in order to understand each other better?

Madalyn: Sure. That friend of yours, Jamie, would call it boundaries.

Me: Right.

Madalyn (leaning forward): And I’ll tell you what. I like that Jamie.

Me: Yeah, she’s great, isn’t she?

Do I sense some flirting going on?

Madalyn: She sure is.

Me: What do you like about her?

Madalyn: Well what’s not to like about her. Now you put me on the spot. Okay, I’ll be honest. She’s pretty.

A ha!

Me: She is.

Madalyn: She’s like the opposite of how I am in many ways. She’s softer. Even her assertive side is softer than I am. She’s like a fluffy pillow.

Robert laughs hard.

Me: That you just want to hug.

Madalyn: Pink and lavender. A pink and lavender fluffy pillow.

Me: And you just want to hug that pillow, huh?

Madalyn: That’s right. We need people like her; we need people like me.

Me: That’s true.

Madalyn: We need people like Erik; we need people like you; we need people like Robert, because together we learn from each other.

Amanda Grieme wanted me to post this old radio interview for you to listen to. It’s hilarious. Click HERE.