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Here, Erik discusses the concept of multiple selves. Frankly, I don’t think the world can handle more than one of me!
Me: Erik, how are you doing, sweetie?
Jamie: Oh, he’s doing fine. In fact, the reason we were running behind is because he was giving an incredible monologue to someone [in a session.]
Me: Awesome. So, he’s still helping people!
Jamie: Yes.
She laughs.
Me: I heard the trance channeling event was awesome.
Jamie: Yes, he totally surprised me. He didn’t tell me he was coming through.
Me: Somebody said they saw this blue glowing orb about the size of your palm leave your body right before Grace came in. Gracie. So that was kind of cool.
Jamie: Oh wow. So we should start filming around the room to see what shows up.
Me: I know! That would be so cool. I’ve got a lot of little questions. I don’t know if they’ll take up an entire YouTube, but we can do the potpourri thing.
Jamie giggles.
Me: I have one from a guy. “I believe you mentioned once that we retain our personalities as souls but that being individualistic is not that important in the spirit world as when we’re incarnated. Are there fundamental aspects of our personalities that tend to be present in all of our incarnations like if we’re attracted to the arts instead of the sciences—would that aesthetic need to be creative be there in some form in most of our life experiences?”
Jamie (chuckling): First of all, he loves the question, but I wish everybody could imagine in their heads that as Elisa is asking the question, Erik’s leaning up against my [cabinet]—I’m working at my home—and he’s like, “Come on. Get to the question.” (He waves his arms to encourage me to spit it out.) “Now there’s the meat of the question! That’s a pretty good damn question.” And he’s talking the whole time Elisa is reading the question! And he’s slinging an arm out. It’s so funny. It’s so hard, sometimes, to be still, and listen and I want people to know this because when they’re going into meditation and Erik’s pranking them, I mean, part of Erik’s personality is he doesn’t stay quiet! You think you might be going crazy in your head, but no, you might just have Erik!
She laughs.
Me: That’s true! He was like that when he was here—when he was younger. So yeah, that’s a good question. What do you think?
Erik: Yes, there are deep-seated soul needs or attractions, for lack of a better word, that run through every incarnation that you pick. It kind of goes along with choosing the same thread of a contract or lesson as well as the question of the likeliness of having similar personality traits, characteristics, likes and dislikes throughout all kinds of lives because it’s coming from, for the lack of a better term—
Jamie chuckles.
Erik: –the original you. The original you doesn’t go back and forth like a chameleon as you dive into different lifetimes and titles and experiences and names. It’s this core or deep value, and then it kind of morphs from there, like Dustin Hoffman.
Jamie (puzzled): Of course! Let’s mention Dustin Hoffman.
She says that in a way that indicates he’s making no sense.
Me: That came out of nowhere.
Jamie (laughing): It did!
Erik: Yeah, but Mom, when you look at—
Jamie (getting it): Oh!
Erik: –when you look at his acting and you look at his roles, they’re incredibly different from him.
Me: That’s true.
Tootsie. Rain Man. Need I say more.
Erik: But then you’re like, “Ah, I hear a little bit of Dustin Hoffman in there. I see where he gave birth to that idea. If came from him, but it’s completely different from him.” So using the concept or metaphor of acting kind of helps you understand how you get to role-play in all of these lives, play out contracts and lessons and gather all of these experiences you claim you need for yourself to be who you desire or want to be or who you are manifesting to be. So that’s my answer.
Jamie (laughing): It’s like he cut it off right away! I thought he was going to keep going.
Me: Okay, so you have—sorry, Yorkie coming through.
I take Bella and put her to the other side of my desk because she’s getting into everything and trying to stomp on my keyboard.
Me: Don’t walk on my keyboard!
Jamie: The Flying Yorkie.
Me: You have a bit of Erikness in all of your incarnations, then?
Erik nods his head.
Me: And what would those traits be? What personality traits do you, Erik, tend to keep in all your incarnations?
Erik: Is this in any particular order?
Jamie giggles.
Me: No, I don’t care.
Jamie: The first one he said because—he rarely leans on things. As he stands, I normally see him just kind of flouncing around and pacing, but he goes, “Well, my seductive charm. Like come on; that’s a given.”
So he must be leaning in close to her face. What a flirt.
Me: Of course!
Jamie laughs.
Erik: As well as being outspoken. And outspoken doesn’t mean loud. It doesn’t mean opinionated. I just want to be clear on that. Outspoken means I don’t mind going outside the box to talk about what shouldn’t be talked about.
Me: So emotionally honest and assertive?
Erik: Yeah, I wouldn’t put “assertive” in there, Mom, but yes, emotionally honest.
Me: What’s wrong with being assertive?
Erik: Well, I’ve had many lives where I’m not really assertive.
Me: Oh, okay. Okay. What other personality traits? Anything else? Your rascally-ness, has that always been a part of the thread?
Jamie: His prankster-ness?
We’re making up all sorts of words here!
Me: Mm hm.
Erik: You know, we should make that a movement like the hipster movement. The prankster movement.
Jamie laughs.
Me: Me likey. Watch out, Bella!
Erik: Yes.
Me: Okay. Let me put her down—see how long that lasts.
Erik: Two seconds.
I put Bella on the floor.
Me: What kind of interests do you retain? This guy was talking about how you might have a proclivity for the arts rather than the sciences in all your incarnations. Do you have certain interests that have continued throughout all of your incarnations?
Erik: Yes, music.
Me: Music. Of course. Now this last life, you were so into mechanical stuff you know, like fixing cars, putting lift kits on people’s trucks for them, welding—really manly stuff. Has that been part of the thread, or is that something new?
Erik shakes his head.
Me: It has not been?
Erik: Mm mm, but a little bit of—
Me: Were you masculine, feminine or a mixture?
Erik: A mixture.
Me: Yeah.
(Pause)
Jamie (laughing): God, I want to mimic you so bad! I can’t get that whole essence, but sometimes he’s puts on this professor face like he’s smarter than, you know, we all know him to be.
She mimics a wise-ass professor as she translates what he said:
Erik: Well, I actually kind of like being a woman.
Me: Oh, okay. Why?
Erik: Because then my emotional honesty doesn’t seem so fucking out of bounds.
Me: Oh, I see. Especially incarnations in the past, past, past.
(Pause)
Me: Even though it’s all happening at once.
Erik: Yeah, and if we’re talking linear, the women that are coming in now, talk about some ball-busting! Talk about some real emotional strength! It’s going to be a lot easier in our world, and we’ll be able to talk about how we feel.
Me: Good, and maybe we’ll train some men, too and make it okay for them. All right, let me see what else—that was only part of his question. Maybe the rest is all the same. Let me see. Okay, “Is the “me” now a total result of nurture, environment, experience or DNA of this lifetime or does there also exist a “me” whose basic disposition and consciousness always was and always will be?”
Erik: There is a small portion of you that always was and always will be, but you have to see that small portion, my friend, as being claylike in substance. It’s not always maintaining the same shape. It’s always the same mass. It can change color or it can change shape or texture, but it’s always the same mass.
I “fly” Bella over the keyboard and try to settle her into my lap.
Erik: Mom, just knit her a cape so you can fly her in front of the camera. “FLYING YORKIE!”
Me: Bella is like trying to walk all over the keyboard. It’s annoying me!
Jamie laughs.
Me: Okay, anything else?
Erik: No, I think that captures it.
Stay tuned for Part Two tomorrow! Meanwhile, here’s another review for Erik’s My Life After Death. In order to see the audiobook format, you sometimes have to make the page wider.
In Erik’s inimitable voice, he takes us on a fascinating journey from his choice to end his life here, through observing his funeral, saying goodbye to family members, crossing over, his life review, his early experiences in heaven, how he has continued to grow and learn there, and his current passion in serving as a spiritual guide. He has much wisdom to share from his perspective, both about how to make the most of our lives here on earth and about what it’s like in the spiritual realms. I would recommend this book to anyone who is pondering what happens to the soul at the point of transition through death (which he says is more like a birth). It emphasizes the importance of self-love, the fact that we are all connected (that separation is truly an illusion), gives a glimpse into what heaven is like, and the importance of compassion, forgiveness, and non-judgment.
–Amazon customer
