I can’t tell you how grateful I am to all who have helped Kim with donations. She and I both cried when they started rolling in. Donations are a touchy subject with me, and part of me still feels guilty asking for them, but I’m reminded that you are my second family and family has each other’s back. Well, you certainly had ours and know that I’ll always have yours.
Here’s the last part of our Mogay interview!
Me: You said, “Although the adverse effect of the celestial body had gone when it knocked out of its orbit—He uses broken English—but it’s no more time for us to took refuge with transfer system. The disaster on Matif made us arrive on Earth.” What does that mean you didn’t have time to take “refuge with transfer system?”
(Long pause as Kim listens)
Kim: That’s interesting. First of all, he does have broken English, so it’s hard to translate.
She laughs.
No wonder she’s been struggling.
Kim: That transfer system that he’s talking about like with Higher Self and not having time to take refuge, not having time to understand or make changes—so how did that affect you?
Me: Is the transfer system that information flow between you and your Higher Self?
Mogay: Yes.
Me: Oh, okay! I thought it was an escape pod or something—so you could transfer to another viable planet. That’s interesting.
Kim: Yeah, I’m trying to ask him how that affected him coming here. Why did that make him seek refuge here?
(Long pause)
Kim: Oh, man. I love what I do, and I try to exist and love everything I can, but this is a little creepy.
She laughs nervously.
Me: Uh oh!
Kim: Thank goodness he’s not offended by me saying that!
Mogay: Humans put off a constant vibration at certain frequencies that we can understand because oftentimes you operate on autopilot.
Me: Humans do?
Mogay: Yes.
Me: Okay, got it. Yeah, that’s true.
Mogay: So that vibration when people are in a numb state of mind puts off this collective vibration.
Kim: It’s almost like a safety net. That’s what he’s making me feel like.
Mogay: We can seek refuge within those waves, within those frequencies.
Me: So was your physical body destroyed during the disaster and then your Higher Self or your spirits came here?
Kim: I believe so. He’s all about using images.
Me: Try to use words, Mogay.
Kim: What he showed me when you asked that was, I’m sure, at one point or another, have looked at pictures of humans that have undergone spontaneous combustion—
Um, no.
Kim: That’s what he’s showing like with their bodies.
Me: Oh yeah. Aw.
Kim: Like a spontaneous combustion. Then he talked about the violence of that.
Me: Was it painful? I hope it wasn’t. It was probably too instantaneous.
Mogay: No pain, but it was very disorienting. We were in a body one minute and not in the next. Then we had to adapt and understand. And the amount of emotion that goes behind it, that’s where we seek refuge in that safety net.
Me: What did your physical bodies look like?
Kim (Smiling): He’s showing me an image again! Smaller than your average human but still human type features and shapes. Everything is just on a smaller scale. Everything that’s average to us is large to them.
Mogay: You don’t see (He bends his arm and pats where biceps should be.) musculature.
Kim: Humans can get ripped in certain ways, abs, biceps, etc. but you don’t see that. They look very frail.
Me: Well we do have 24 Hour Fitnesses here. They probably have a special now after the holidays. Might want to look into that.
Kim laughs.
Kim: He’s just smiling.
Me: I’m teasing. How many are there of you over here? Also, how did you get here?
Kim: He’s answering the second question first.
Mogay: It’s about attraction to vibration.
Kim: Oh, man. Now he’s showing a sense of humor. He’s joking. When you asked how he got here, he made a reference that he didn’t take one of the cars from the Jetsons.
Me: Oh, my god! I just thought about the Jetsons when you said he was joking! Wow, I channeled Mogay!
Mogay: There’s no need to travel. It’s an attraction to a vibration that helps you exist.
Kim: He makes me feel like there are concentrated groups of them, but when I asked him to give me a number, he said there’s no limit. So it’s infinite.
Me: Okay. Wow. How long did it take you to get over here, and how far away was Matif?
Mogay: Matif is hidden. It’s undiscovered. It’s in another universe.
Me: Oh, so you’re from a different universe?
Mogay: Yes.
Kim: And how long did it take you to get here?
Mogay: For us, it was instant, but in your concept of time, it would be translated into light years.
Me: Light years? That’s a distance. That’s how far light travels over a year.
Kim: So, there’s a distance measurement with light years? Because he keeps saying, “Light years, light years, light years.”
Me: Yeah, that’s a distance. It’s not really a time. So did it take you decades to get here? Hundreds of years?
Kim: Oh, I see. I kept asking him how long it took him to get here, and he just kept repeating, “light years,” so he’s stacking them. He’s taking the word, “light years” and separating them with commas. His communication is so bizarre. How many light years?
Mogay: Four.
Me: So, you’re four light years away?
Kim: His energy aligned when you said that so, yes.
Me: Oh. How did you learn how to speak English?
Mogay: It’s not that we learned how to speak English. It’s all about the energy behind the word that helps us understand the meaning. It’s partially mocking. But we mostly understand it based on the energy behind it. Just because you perceive it as English doesn’t mean that’s our main “language.”
Me: Oh, yeah.
Mogay: You’re going to receive the information in a way that you can understand. We don’t really use language. Most of the time it’s vibration. We use vibration to communicate. We use waves, frequencies.
Me: Okay. Interesting. You know, I’m probably have to have a Part Two and learn more, not just your current situation like we’re talking about now, but your whole, uh, what kind of beings you are, what your life on Matif was like, how you communicate and all that. That’d be fun. All right. I’m almost finished, and thank you for bearing with me. So you’re in a human now. What’s that human’s name?
Mogay: In and out.
Me: Oh, you’re in and out of the same human or different humans?
Mogay: Different. I’m working with Scott.
Kim struggles but comes up with the last name.
Mogay: Scott Hampshire.
Me: Okay. Does he know that you’re working with him?
Mogay: No.
Me: So you’re using him as a vessel?
Mogay: Yes, but I’m working with multiple humans. It’s to direct research, to guide research.
Me: So he’s some kind of researcher, I guess.
Mogay: Yes.
Me: Do you miss home? Is there anything that we can do for you? It seemed like you were pleading for help. What can we do? What do you need?
Mogay: I don’t miss home necessarily in the way you miss something, when you long for things. It’s more of an understanding of the process.
(Long pause)
Kim: Man, he’s talking a whole lot about when you asked what we can do to help. He’s talking about—Oh, man. I wish we had more time. First he talks about how we can help.
Mogay: People that exhibit mental illness, don’t judge them. They might be the people we’re working with. So whether someone looks like they have bipolar disease or schizophrenia, don’t judge them for acting out of character. Sometimes that’s when guides are taking over.
Kim: He’s very stern about that.
Mogay: Don’t judge your own kind. Be more compassionate to your own kind because that affects the collective energy of mankind. When that collective energy is healthy, that helps us exist. So the best thing you can do for us is to help each other.
Kim: Is there anything else?
Mogay: I don’t know what else you can possibly do.
Me: So you don’t want to leave Earth and go to another place?
Mogay: No. This is a part of the process.
Kim: That feels like such a mystery when he says that. I’m like, ‘What? Tell me more!’ It’s a big question mark in my head. What is this process? Tell me more!
Me: Well, we’ll have to have you back! Thank you, Erik, for bringing him in! Thank you, Mogay, for being here and helping us. I’ll see if this can get into the right hands because I think if I send it to this Mutual UFO Network, maybe they’d be interested. Or maybe they’ll just laugh at me! I don’t know!
Erik: Thank you for having an open mind.
Me: Sure. It’s been cracked wide open! I love you, Erik!
We say our goodbyes.
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