What synchronicity that the Huffington Post had an article about Mother Teresa that did not paint a pretty picture. It seems like every time we post a celebrity interview, news on them comes out!

Me: Mother Teresa can you discuss the difficulty you experienced when you left the convent, and what happened that changed you from Sister Teresa to Mother Teresa when you left the convent?

(Pause)

Jamie: I know she’s talking, but I can’t understand her.

Me: Ah oh. Is she speaking another language or is she mumbling?

Jamie: Yeah, I guess it’s more of a mumble. I mean, I should hear it in English no matter what.

(Pause)

Jamie: Erik’s coaching her. He’s so sweet with her. Every now and then he’ll, uh, he’s gotta like reach down to rub her. He rubs the back of her shoulder. She’s in a really, really, really pretty blue. In her pictures, don’t you usually see her in white?

Me: Mm hm.

Jamie: I don’t see her in that traditional white. An amazing blue color.

Mother Teresa: There was no difficulty in leaving. I was blessed by the seer, the holy seer, to leave, and I discovered it was my calling—

Jamie: Okay. We need to find a way to make this smoother.

Me: Okay.

Jamie: So, I’m asking Erik maybe, if she’s so comfortable with him, she can talk to him and Erik can just give it to me right away.

Me: Okay.

Jamie: Instead of me trying to listen in on their conversation.

Jamie (to Erik): Is that good?

Erik nods his head yes.

Jamie (giggling): Erik, my gosh! He hasn’t said a single cuss word, which I’m proud of, but…

I guess I’m not going to be privy to whatever mischief he did.

Mother Teresa: It was years in development that I wanted to work outside of the Church, and while I was teaching—I was a teacher inside the Church—I had a classroom and a structure—I would spend more of my time staring out the window and thinking about what I could do there. I found it was my calling to work with the people who weren’t seen. The poverty, the people on the streets that the average person who could be productive in society would choose to ignore—that’s what I was most attracted to, and I presented a complete program, everything—

Erik: I’m impressed by how with it she is. Like she had to present it almost like a business program and how it was going to benefit the Church and what it could do for its image.

Mother Teresa: And I did it this way so I could get the blessing to do the work. I wanted to, yet the Church decided not to give me any money for it, but they let me go. They still took care of me, but they wouldn’t put any of the money that was coming into the system into the work that I was doing. So, I had to rely on what came in through the local people, volunteers, helpers, anything I could, and this is what helped start a complete movement for me.

Jamie: The Something of Charity. What do you call, um Mission of Charity? It’s something that begins with an M. She’s just sharing everything with him! I don’t know where you want to go with this. She’s just sharing that. Her life was never in danger.

Me: So, the local people really created this whole icon, “Mother Teresa”, the name and such?

Mother Teresa: I was just blessed enough to have the face for it, and I loved being the head of it, because I see how much help if could provide. Not only could I do –

Jamie: It looks like you’re out on the streets on in a park, and she would just teach. There were no buildings. It wasn’t regulated. It was just if you couldn’t afford school, you could just show up. Then, I stared to find ways to do that with medical attention and nutrition, clothing and education.

Mother Teresa: My deepest calling and spiritual mission on Earth—

Jamie: That’s usually our question!

Mother Teresa: –was not just to take care of the immediate needs. If somebody was hungry, I could provide food for them and give them satisfaction for that moment, or if they were cold, I could provide clothing for them, and that would provide comfort for them for that moment. The worst kind of poverty that I came across was the children and the people, the adults, that were neglected from love, that were pushed away. You cannot just hand someone love to be satisfied in that moment. It is the entire part of the being that needs to be addressed and cared for. And this kind of charity cannot give this satisfaction within minutes. This is what I was most attracted to—wanting people to know they are whole and beautiful even though someone that should have been a support to them— like a parent or a protector ignored them or turned them away or abused them. I wanted those people, those that no one looked at—I want them to know that they are beautiful and that they are whole and that they are loved, and they can create the love inside of themselves. That’s what Jesus provided for me.

Me: How beautiful that is.

Mother Teresa: Thank you.

Me: Now, you said that the poverty of the West was more difficult to remove. Why is that?

Mother Teresa: The people in the—

Erik (to Mother Teresa): You sure you wanna say that?

Mother Teresa: I’m speaking the truth. It’s not my opinion; I feel like I’m speaking the truth. The people on the West, their soul is designed to be more mean.

Not sure if I’m happy with the words that are coming out of this woman’s mouth, and I’m beginning to think she has carried her human ego with her after she crossed over.

Me: Is that an opinion, or is that a fact? That sounds like your opinion.

Mother Teresa: No, it’s a fact based on history.

Jamie (laughing hard at what she’s just heard): Oh my god! Okay. (She clears her throat.) She’s talking about when people left the governments and left the structure and when they came to the new lands, there was a lot of internal war.

Mother Teresa: There was freedom instead of structure, whether it was structure or religion, and this new discovery of Man removed them from unity and made them stand on their own and become fighters. And so the program for the western person is that they’re more of an individual than a collective, so they’re more likely to take care of themselves than to reach out and take care of their families or the people around them. I say the world “mean,” but I don’t mean it as “ferocious”. I mean it as egotistic.

Me: Well, sometimes when you’re unified as a group, you feel like somebody else is going to take care of these people, and when you’re an individual, you feel that it’s your responsibility to take care of them. I think the West has proven to be the most charitable people in the world. The United States has given more in charity and has been more charitable that any other country in the world. How do you explain that?

Mother Teresa: That you cannot deny, but that is mostly through innovative people who succeed in a company or in the entertainment industry where individuals have gone upstream and created their own success, setting them far apart from the culture they were raised in. I’m speaking in general, not of the unique few.

Me: Well, what about the middle class, for example? When the tsunami happened in Thailand and all these other disasters, we’re the first ones to pour out money and love. What about Doctors Without Borders?

Mother Teresa: What do you need me to say to make you feel okay. I don’t want you to have to defend your country. I’m just saying this is clearly what your growth was based on.

Me: It just seems there are too many contradiction to what you say.

Mother Teresa: Only if you’re taking the stance of defense. I’m taking the stance of observation.

Me: Well, I’m taking the stance of observation, myself! I’m not trying to defend everything. I think there are things wrong with the West. There are negatives.

What she says is “fact” is clearly her “opinion.” Hmm. I don’t know about this lady. If we were alone in a room together we’d probably fight like a couple of stray cats.

(Pause)

Jamie: Sorry, Erik is asking her to clarify something.

Mother Teresa: The growth that the American people going forward from here—they’re going to rely more on love as the basis of who they are in their personal life and their career.

Me: You know what I think? I think the basis of some of the charity of the West might be to stoke the ego rather than out of love. I think that’s what you’re trying to say.

I’m so trying to give myself a reason to respect her the way I did before this interview began.

Mother Teresa nods her head.

Mother Teresa: You also have a better marketing system.

Me: That’s true.

Jamie: And she smiles for the second time!

Me: Wow! Now, why did you say that abortion was the single greatest destroyer of peace in the world, and do you believe that still?

Mother Teresa: Yes.

Me: Why?

Mother Teresa: Because you are removing God’s light from Earth.

Me: How does that destroy peace?

Mother Teresa: It is a very angry and offensive act to go against God’s light.

Me: What if it’s a contract to help teach or for that soul to learn something spiritual?

Mother Teresa: With my understanding, through my eyes, —

Erik (turning his head toward Jamie): In other words, her viewpoint or opinion.

Jamie and I chuckle knowingly. Finally Mother Teresa admits that not all of her opinions are facts.

Mother Teresa: In my eyes, no life force wants to give control to someone else, to have someone else choose when their light goes out. It should be their choice.

Mother Teresa Speech About How to Love God

Don’t forget about the radio show tonight! See the details in yesterday’s post!