There has been a lot of curiosity surrounding these mysterious vortices around the world. Erik talks more about his personal experiences with them in the new book, but here, he explains what they are and more.

Me: Let’s talk about vortexes or vortices, whatever you want to call them. Both ways are correct. They’re supposed to be at all sorts of locations around the world. How are they made, and what do they do?

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Erik: Just like wormholes, it’s not like you can “make” them. They just exist, but if you want to describe it in terms of making them, it’s like you’re just making yourself become aware that they’re there.

Me: Oh!

Erik: It’s like they’re no longer invisible to you anymore. The human body is filled with vortices or wormholes, really. There’s really no difference between the two, and they’re constantly moving. There are a few places on the earth where they’re more constant like they don’t move around as much and they’re more powerful.

Robert: He shows this place off the coast of Florida around Cuba, that whole area.

Erik: There’s a big one there.

Me: What about the Bermuda Triangle? Is that where another vortex is?

Erik: Yeah, but that one moves all around unlike the one around Cuba. It tends to stay within that triangle. Humans don’t realize how smart they are sometimes, and that’s what makes them so stupid. There is a triangular area that the vortex sticks to, but it also splits off into other little vortices. It fucks with magnetism and electrical equipment, and that can throw people off course. You know the whole story behind that.

Me: So those stories are true?

Erik: Yeah.

Me: Do people go into different dimensions? Because wasn’t there some story where this ship disappeared for a while, then came back, and they were still young.

Erik: What mostly happens is they crash or get lost. They can also have periods where they lose time like in the story you just mentioned. For a lot of those people—

Robert: He’s showing me a group of sailors.

Me: Yeah, they were.

Erik: It was like a blink for them. They had no sense that they were gone for that long. Another thing that can happen is it can affect people’s emotions. Pilots and ship captains can get all fucked up emotionally and sabotage themselves. They can do some stupid shit. There are other times—and this is where it’s very telling as to how emotionally stable you are—there are other people who can pass right through those vortices and it doesn’t affect them. It’s all about whether you lie more on the side of fear or not.

Me: Well, I guess these vortices affect energy, and we’re made of emotional energy.

Erik: Absolutely.

Me: So did time stall for those sailors?

Erik: They didn’t even notice a change in time. They were just going along their route, doing what they usually do, and then when they came back to port, everybody freaks out because here are these guys who disappeared years ago, but they look the same as when they left, and the sailors are like, “What the fuck is going on? Everything is changed!”

Me: What happened from the standpoint of physics?

Robert: He shows me this curtain.

Erik: I’ll use curtain as another word for “veil.” The veil between realities is very thin. You can just go right through it. You can think of it as the boundary between energy patterns, and it’s very weak. So the sailors passed through it, then passed back again.

Me: Is there anything we can do with these vortices?

Erik: Not right now, because humans don’t have a full grasp of the physics of it all yet. There’s a reason for that. They’re not ready for that information. If we fuck up, we can end up unraveling our reality. So we have constraints on us. We’re not responsible enough yet. You have to have evolved as a species to have the ability to go from physical to nonphysical. At that point, you will have become caretakers of reality. This is what guardian angels do. When things go on a different trajectory like off to the left a little and it needs to go a little to the right, they can massage it so that things stay where they’re supposed to be.

Me: Will we be able to influence or control these vortices? If so, what might we achieve by doing that?

Erik: I don’t have too much more to say about that. You’ll become guides for the way reality moves, the way those who are living in the physical body experience their physicality and awareness. A good example is if human beings need to experience a cataclysm in order to shake things up so that they can evolve in a new way that makes them more harmonious, then they can manipulate that fabric of reality so that that cataclysm happens and that opportunity for evolution occurs.

Me: Okay. One last question. Are these vortices connected to Atlantis, Lemuria or other lost ancient civilizations?

Erik: Yes. A vortex is connected to every possibility that could exist. That means once you know where you want to go and how that is, you can go through those, through the wormhole. So you could go to Atlantis, which, technically through your perspective would be in the past.

Me: Did Atlantis use vortices for anything? Were they able to tap into their power or whatever?

Erik: Yeah, they didn’t use the same word. They called it something else. They called it a channel. That’s where we got the word “channel” for when we communicate with people who’ve crossed over. You literally open up your wormhole or vortex to that spirit. Then you channel that information through that connection you’ve created.

Me: So do we have our own little vortices?

Erik: The whole body is full of them. You just can’t see them. If you could see them, you’d realize that that’s all you are.

Me: Oh my gosh. Interesting! Did they harness the vortex to become such a powerful civilization? Was that one of their big secrets?

Erik: They were on the path to that, but the reason Atlantis went the way of the dinosaur and the do-do is because humans—and there was another kind of being there—weren’t ready for it. At the same time, sometimes those things happen “early” to plant the seed for something that’s meant to happen in the “future” when we are ready. Every human being living now has an ancestor from Atlantis. That information is coded in your DNA. So when we’re ready for it, someone is going to figure all this stuff up and unlock it. This is how something in the past can affect the present or the future.

Me: Fascinating. Anything else on vortices?

Erik: Nah.