Now that we all get a picture of what a beautiful, gentle, wise soul Erik is (and how well Robert gets along with (and, yes, tolerates) Erik, I gave him a couple of questions to ask Erik. Here’s the first one. I’ll post the second one Monday and then on Tuesday I’ll share the first Ask Erik question.
Me: You can see him now, right?
Robert: Well, here’s how it worked out in the beginning. In the beginning I didn’t see him until I knew who he was or until I started coming across any of his pictures. Then I started to see images of him, but they were really quick flashes. I remember he had shaggy hair, and—
Robert laughs at something Erik just said.
Robert: I was going to call him a pipsqueak, but he told me, “Don’t you dare call me short!”
Robert belly laughs.
Erik: Don’t you say it!
Robert: But anyway, he was short.
Me: Not super short. He was like 5’8”.
Robert: Yeah, and he would wear a lot of t-shirts and things like that—certain kinds of t-shirts. Then there would be times where I could see him very, very clearly in different types of clothes that he would wear in life. Like I remember this one instance where he wore a shirt that, I think it had red sleeves and like white in the center.
Me: Like a baseball shirt with three quarter sleeves?
Robert: Yeah, like that. And there was something on it like some kind of writing. I remember that one, particularly. Now, as time has gone on, we’ve refined the way we talk to each other, so I don’t necessarily always try to see him. I’m just open to hearing him and allowing the other things to come in and allowing him to show me the things he needs to show me. If I do see him, it’ll be something super quick, just long enough for me to get it. It can take only a few nanoseconds.
Robert: Then, I’ll get a sense of what he’s wearing and things like that. It plays out that way, because I’m refining things.
Me: Sure. I remember the shirt that he died in was one of those baseball shirts. He had one with blue sleeves and another one with red sleeves. I can’t remember which one it was.
Robert: I’ve seen the blue on also. Then he has baseball caps that he wears sometimes, caps in general. Yeah, so that’s him, and that’s my story.
Me: Thank you, Robert.
I drone on about what an adventure it’ll be with the three of us.
Robert: I was distracted because Erik was saying, “You know, Dude this is all about me. It’s all about me.”
Erik’s teasing makes us both laugh.
Me: He’s used to being the ringmaster!
Erik (to Robert): Have Mom, ask a couple of questions, at least!
Me: Okay. Well, Erik, can you tell me what the difference is between those four roommates you talk about: the energetic body, the spiritual body, the mental body and the physical body? I’m not quite sure what the spiritual body is and where the emotional body that he talks about fits into all of this. Also, is the emotional body the same as the energetic body or the spiritual body?
Erik: Here’s how I’ll put it. You can think of things as layers even though there aren’t any layers or separations. That’s what we’ll go with, because you need a point of reference. The energetic body: That’s what everything is encapsulated in. The energy, that’s the waves that consciousness is carried on. The spirit body is like the individual personality, that thing that creates that illusion of separateness but also recognize that it isn’t separate, so, the individual, right?
Erik: An individual doesn’t have to be just one person to one person. An individual can be a collection of spirits that form a unique individual as well.
Robert: Yeah, that’s fascinating!
Erik: And the emotional body is the part of the energetic and spiritual body that allows us to connect to our emotions. It’s the feeling side. Now, this might sound like a contradiction, but ultimately, everything is all about feelings. Everything is all about emotions, even the energetic body, but to make it easier for people to understand, I’m going to separate things into different layers. So the energetic body is the part of the layer that is about the feelings, the emotions, and then what was the other one you wanted to talk about? The mental body?
Me: Yeah, is that the brain?
Erik: That’s the part of the energetic or spirit body that you can associate with being part in the brain, and it’s the thing that’s easiest for us to identify in the human realm, as being the brain, but in the spirit realm, it also exists. It’s that part of you that some people might associate with being the Akashic Record, so it’s what carries all of your experiences, when you walk your dog, when you brush your teeth, when you see someone you really find attractive, and they catch your eye, and all that stuff. All of the 3-D experiences you have are stored in that place. It has its own way of processing things, too. It can be aligned with the brain in the sense that it does require, um, housed within that or a part of it is rational thought, the logic and all that stuff. It helps with the spirit to create some kind of way to attach feeling to it. Even though there’s no time here, some still like to thread it as if it were linear, right?
Me: Mm hmm.
Erik: And if you don’t do that, you don’t have a way to create experiences like walking through a heavenly park or field or whatever. You need the mind for that. The emotional side comes into play when you’re walking through that field or park, you can feel the sacred wellbeing; you can enjoy the beauty—that enjoyment isn’t going to come unless you have a feeling attached to it.