Sorry to keep it brief, but I’m about to head out for the lake. Everyone have a fun but safe Memorial Day Weekend. Don’t forget to say a prayer of thanks for those who have sacrificed their lives for our freedom. Yeah, it’s not just about a day off, beer and barbecue. 

Me: One more question before we move on to interviewing David Bowie. There have been these—and I see pictures of them on this piece of paper—there are these black circles over Disneyland that were seen. They’re these weird, almost like smoke rings, these huge rings that move across the sky. What in the heck are those?

Robert: Over Disney?

Me: Yeah, Dizzy Land. Maybe they’ve been seen in other places, too. I don’t know.

Erik: Well, it’s nothing.

Okay, that will never do.

Robert laughs.

Me: Come on! It’s something. We’re seeing it! So many people have reported seeing these, and there are YouTubes out there of it! People have taken pictures and videos of them. Why? Is it a hoax?

Robert: Yeah, when you say, “It’s nothing,” are you saying it’s a hoax?

Erik: No, it’s not a hoax. It’s just nothing to be afraid of.

Me: Well, then what is it?

Robert: That’s what I just asked him.

Me: Don’t be holding, now!

Robert: He keeps saying vortexes and wormholes.

Me: Oh, interesting. Go ahead. Explain further.

Erik: It’s partially connected with the way the earth is changing: the weather and how people are kind of in emotional upheaval. All of that is a reflection of how the earth is changing. The circles themselves are part of that change, but it’s nothing bad.

Me: What are they made of?

Erik: Negative space.

Me: Is it like dark energy?

Erik: No, it’s really not like dark energy. Dark energy and dark matter are just forms of energy that you just don’t know what they are. They’re not really dark. That just represents the veil we have over it.

Me: So it’s related to a vortex or wormhole?

Erik: When I say, “negative space,” it’s literally like the opposite of what matter is.

Me: Okay.

Erik: It’s not like a black hole, though. I’m trying to verbalize it because humans really don’t have a word for it. I’m just putting it in terms that you might understand.

Me: Well, is it related to a wormhole?

Erik: Sort of.

Robert laughs. Are we getting anywhere?

Me: How so?

Erik: Because if you’re at a certain frequency of energy, you can travel through it.

Me: Oh! Interesting. Anything else about it before we move on?

Erik: The negative space itself, because that’s what it’s made of, only similar type things—negative space type things—can go through it.

Robert: I feel so ignorant.

Me: We just don’t have the vocabulary.

Damn, I wish I had asked where we’d go if we could go through it.

Me: I kind of get it. It’s nothing to be afraid of. That’s the most important take away from this.

Robert: Yeah, and that’s why Erik was hesitant to go into more detail because if you verbalize it, it would be confusing to us. It’s confusing to me!

Me: Yeah, Robert and I are easily confused.

Robert: I get it instinctually and emotionally—

Me: Me, too!

Robert: But my brain doesn’t really—

Me: Right.

We close as we usually do.