This morning I was reflected on my trip to Ireland with Kristina and how much fun we had. Sure there was the “Mom, you’re so annoying” component, but that’s a mother/daughter thing. That very component made me think that it’d be fun to have a show together on the Travel Channel. “Mom and Daughter Conquer the World.” It wouldn’t be just about seeing different parts of the world. It’d be about getting to know each other better, resolving mother/daughter issues (not that there are many) and working through the grief of losing Erik. What do y’all think? Many of you have seen Kristina’s vlogs.
I’m planning to have another Houston CE peeps get-together on Saturday, May 14th if anyone is interested. We’ll eat lunch at the Corner Bakery (9311 Katy Freeway in the Echo Lane Shopping Center,) then drive down the street to my house for some Erik fun and libations. Bring a bottle of wine if you want to help out!
Enjoy Part Two of our David Bowie interview!
Me: Were you bisexual? I mean, what was your sexual orientation?
Bowie: I wouldn’t have labeled myself any orientation, really. It was about whatever the energy was at the moment. If I was drawn to it, whether it was male or female, I would—
Me: Okay, so you could be drawn to male or female energy.
Bowie: But I had a stronger inclination towards female energy, which is why I ended up marrying a woman.
Me: Yeah. So you could be drawn to male energy, sexually?
Bowie: If the male energy projected a feminine energy to it.
Me: Oh, I see. Okay. That makes sense. What’s your religion if any?
Bowie: I didn’t have a religion.
Me: All right. Were you an atheist?
Bowie: I was someone who wanted to believe in this whole afterlife thing. Now, of course—
Me: You know!
Bowie: I know!
Me: Would you define yourself as agnostic, then?
Robert: Yeah, that’s the word that I heard. He used that word and then described what I just said.
Me: Okay. Now, some people thought you were an alien or maybe people said you had a fascination for aliens.
Bowie laughs hard.
Bowie: Yes, I’ve heard that many times, and that’s why I did the movie, The Man Who Fell to Earth. In fact, that was the movie that solidified my reputation.
Me: What reputation? The alien one?
Bowie: Yes the alien one.
Me: Oh, okay. So, are you?
Bowie: Well you can’t be a human and an alien at the same time.
I’ll take that as a no.
Bowie: I suppose that when I went to the United States I was an alien.
Me: Oh, you smart aleck. No, I mean, is your primary home somewhere like Pleiades, Orion or Sirius?
Bowie: The reason I’ve been joking so much about this is because I find the whole idea of that ridiculous.
Me: The whole idea of?
Bowie: That I’m an alien.
Me: Well there are aliens.
Bowie: There absolutely are, but the life I lived as David Bowie was as a human being. That’s the point that I’m trying to make.
Me: Ah, so you weren’t like an alien/human hybrid or some alien that came from another planet and incarnated into the David Bowie body?
Bowie: No, no I was none of those things.
Me: All right. That will give closure to a lot of people.
Bowie: But it makes for a great fantasy.
Me: Yeah, that’s true.
Bowie: And if it tied into a record I was doing, I would have completely embraced that again because I actually did that before. Ziggy Stardust, that time period, that was when the whole alien things came about, and I played with it a little bit.
Me: Do you have any regrets?
Bowie: I healed all the things I labeled as regrets prior to my death.
Bowie: So I don’t have any regrets now, but of course I still look back at things and think, “Eh, maybe I shouldn’t have done that. Maybe I should have used better judgment.”
Me: Name a few.
Robert: He’s showing me several things. One is actually something I’ve already seen. It’s not really—but he says to bring it up anyway. It’s the whole thing with groupies and not knowing his boundaries.
Me: Okay. Can you briefly share a life that most influenced your life as David Bowie?
Bowie: I really enjoy art, and the one that really influenced me was a life where I was a painter’s apprentice in France.
Robert: He said France, but then I saw a visual of someone wearing like stereotypical clothing from France in the 1700s.
Robert: He’s sitting outside. In fact, the visual he’s showing me isn’t a picture like I’m looking in real life at someone. It’s actually a picture of a painting of a person painting something in a field.
Me: Oh, interesting!
Bowie: That was the life that most influenced me.
Me: What was it about that life that influenced you?
Bowie: In that life, I learned to go with the flow of who I am.
Me: Oh, I see. With your art or beyond your art?
Bowie: Well, art was the thing that taught me to go beyond the art in being who I am and to actually turn my life into a work of art. I learned that lesson and I think it helped me connect to the beauty of life. I learned that life itself is art, but you can’t express that art unless you let yourself be free from all limitation and be free to be who you are as a soul.
Me: Be free with that paintbrush! The canvas is wide open!
Robert: How would you define, as a term, who you are? Not you as David Bowie but collectively, because we hear that term all the time. What does that mean? So many people throw that around and then expect you to figure out what that is.
Bowie: Well, that’s the whole point. You have to figure out who you are if you don’t know, but I can tell you that the clue to that is whatever it is you would do if you were completely uninhibited. That is who you are.
Me: Oh, wow. That’s scary. That’s a very powerful statement.
Bowie: Now there are instances where a person may do that cross boundaries but still do them.
Me: That’s who they are. Have you incarnated since your death?
Me: Do you plan to in my lifetime.
Me: All right, tell us about your afterlife and the work you do there.
Bowie: Right now I’m just getting my feet wet.
Me: Oh, yeah.
Robert: He’s telling me what he’s learning, and then he switched to a visual of what he’s having difficulty learning and it’s going around and flowing through things. He’s having trouble knowing how to go through things and get that feeling of a stop mechanism.
Me: A feeling of touch?
Bowie: Yeah, you can produce that, but it takes some time.
Me: Is that the most difficult thing for you?
Bowie: Right now that’s the most difficult, the tactile portion of it. It takes getting used to. The thing that keeps me into it, ironically, is my experiences with hallucinogens. It’s the same sensation, so I would actually connect to that joy to move beyond the frustration.
Me: Erik had trouble with that stop mechanism, too. That must be kind of common.
Bowie: That’s how Erik and I became acquainted.
Me: Oh, really?
Bowie: Erik teaches us how to deal with that.
Me: So, Erik, you’re helping him learn how to reproduce the tactile sensation?
Erik: Mom, partially it’s that, but partially it’s coming to terms with this new experience because you can’t experience the tactile if your whole intention is, “I don’t like this other way.” You have to accept how things are in the moment, first, and then we guide you into all the other stuff.
Me: I didn’t know you did that, Erik, that you teach a lot of spirits that.
Erik: I do. It’s just my gig.
Me: Your gig, huh?
Robert (chuckling): He just says it so nonchalantly.
Me: Do you and David jam, Erik?
Erik: Not yet, Mom.
Me: Okay. What do you think about the state of humanity? I know it sucks, but give me like one sentence about what you think about humanity now.
Bowie: If you had asked me in the 60s or 70s or even before I became famous, I would have been very pessimistic, but the last 10 to 20 years of my life made me realize how beautiful humanity is because of my wife and my kids. That is the beauty in humanity, and that will be the thing that keeps humanity alive.
Me: Are you talking about the connection with the people we love?
Me: Okay. Do you have any messages or advice for us other than the main one about expressing yourself and going with the flow, being okay with change and being yourself?
Bowie: I have nothing new to add to that. A stick up your arse is always uncomfortable so just take it out.
Not a pretty visual.
Me: All right. What about a message for anyone in your family like Iman?
Bowie: I have nothing to add that she didn’t already experience when I was crossing over. We said everything we needed to say. So that was complete closure.
Me: Aw, that’s nice. Erik, do you have any questions?
Erik: No, Mom. This really isn’t about me, and I don’t have anything to add. I enjoyed listening to him. Isn’t he fascinating?
Me: Yeah, he is. What do you think about Channeling Erik?
Bowie: The work that you’re doing is great. I enjoy it.
Me: Aw, thanks!
Bowie: I enjoy it immensely.
Me: Robert, do you have any questions?
Robert: I don’t have any, no. I never do because I’m just so focused on them and being the messenger.
Me: Yeah, right, just being the conduit.
Me: All right, well thank you, Mr. Bowie. Thank you, Erik. Thank you, Robert. This was wonderful. I learned a lot in this session.
Robert: Yeah, Erik said the session today was going to be something because I was wondering why my heart kept pounding today. I really wasn’t nervous. It was just like boom, boom, boom, my heart.
Me: Oh, yeah?
Erik: That’s because a lot of information was going to be relayed, and your body was trying to process it.
Me: Okay, well thank you! Robert, I’ll see you Friday!
Robert: Okay! Bye.
Have a wonderful weekend everyone!