Just one housekeeping note before I introduce my boyfriend, Patrick: The final details on both the Austin event and the two hour channeling conference call will be announced soon. Still waiting for Jamie to iron out the details! It should be no later than next week sometime before I know those details. It does look like the conference call will be held the last week in January sometime. Now, for my (not so secret) crush:
Erik: Mom, I already picked out our next one.
Me: Really? Who? Go ahead, fire away!
Erik: Mom, I’d like to introduce you to Patrick Swayze!
Jamie giggles.
Me: Oh, okay!
Jamie (whispering): Oh my god, he’s the Dirty Dancing guy, right?
Me: Oh, yeah! Let’s see, I’m pretty sure he’s on the list. I just need to circle his name.
Jamie: Aw, I guess I remember seeing him in movies where he’s a lot younger, but he’s actually showing in an older way.
Patrick: Good morning!
Me: Good morning! How are you?
Jamie: He’s got a great voice!
Me: He was and is a wonderful human being. Anyone who loves horses like I love horses—
Patrick: You and I grew up in each other’s backyard, I hear!
Me: Oh really?
Jamie (to Patrick): Are you from Texas?
Patrick: Yes!
Me: Yeah! Thank you, Patrick, for taking time out of your very busy schedule in the afterlife.
Patrick: This is wonderful!
Me: Hopefully, we’ll help and provide comfort to many people with this book.
Patrick: You know, I’m always a person who loves to give back, and I was wondering if, because this book is going to be such a success, are you going to take some of the profits to help people reunite with their loved ones as well?
Me: Oh, yeah! Of course! That’s the whole point. We want to provide spiritual services like past life regression, channeling, and other things for those who can’t afford it.
Jamie: Oh, he’s so happy about that!
Me: Yeah. So, let’s start out with Erik. Erik, do you have any questions for Patrick?
Erik: No.
Me: Okay, well, I’m going to ask you again later, so be thinking. Mr. Swayze, what beliefs did you have about death and the afterlife?
Jamie: He totally talks over you, before you can even finish your sentence.
Patrick: Oh, Roman Catholic, what else. The heart of all religion, right?
Me: I don’t know.
Jamie: He kind of laughs at himself.
Patrick: Yeah, but that didn’t hold up for my entire life. I wonder why? Isn’t that the one religion with the most loopholes?
Me: Probably. But I don’t know very much about different religions. I was raised Catholic, but then my parents became atheists when I was under the age of five, so I was very confused as a child! So, did you believe in the tenets of Roman Catholicism for quite a while?
Patrick: Oh, they had us right in the Catholic schools, raising us, but I think what saved me was my love for athletics.
Me: And how did that save you?
Patrick: I don’t know. It kind of got me away from religious routines, attending the services, saying your prayers, having your rosaries.
Jamie: He’s just waving his hands around like, “This and that and this.”
Patrick: Because you know, I had to practice, and I had to study. I was into everything. You give it to me, from football to ballet to gymnastics to martial arts, to ice skating. You name it, I went across the board.
Me: That’s amazing! I don’t know what to do with my body half the time. But, yes, you really had an incredible amount of control over your body in three-dimensional space. Just uncanny.
Jamie: That’s true. I never thought about it that way, but I always remember what a freaking great dancer he was!
Me: He’s probably over there blushing. Are you, Patrick?
Jamie (chuckling): No, he’s saying, “I’ll show you some moves, ladies.”
Me: Ah oh! Oh boy, promises, promises!
Jamie laughs hard.
Jamie: I like him!
Me: Oh, he’s wonderful! Now, after you crossed over, how did your beliefs change?
Patrick: Oh, it was like waking up! Waking up, realizing, ah, honestly, my first thought was for my poor parents. They really held tightly to the idea of Catholicism. It gave them comfort. I saw what it did for them, so it wasn’t anything I wanted to shake up.
Me: Yeah.
Patrick: Coming out of life and crossing over, I realized, ‘Ah, this is so much easier!’ And it’s too bad that we aren’t taught that faith and belief can be easy. It’s not about dedicating your life and making vows. It really is about trusting in oneself to find your own beliefs and your own faith.
Me: Yeah, you don’t need those nuns with their rulers, do you? No.
Patrick: I tried a bit of everything when I was alive.
Jamie (to Patrick): Oh my god; it sounds like a list of your athletics!
Patrick: Scientology, meditation, Buddhism, but I really didn’t get that much support.
Me: Well, what made you embark on that sort of search? Did anything put you on that path of spiritual exploration?
Patrick: Because I was in the acting realm and got to be exposed to so much more, that gave me encouragement to explore. You know, my sister committed suicide.
Me: Oh, no. I didn’t know that.
Patrick: And that right there, according to Catholicism, meant she was going to Hell for the rest of eternity. I just knew in my heart that this was not true, and that compelled me to dive deeper into different cultural and spiritual beliefs. And I found meditation, Buddhism, gave me the structure I needed to identify with spirituality.
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