C:        The members.

C:        None, but for human perceptions of institutions and behavior within.

C:        Thoughts create substance; yes. Many a time this we have said.

C:        It cannot except where the notions are disconnected, such as being human. The choice to occupy a body and journey across Earth seems to disconnect mental energy and its ability to create actual substance. This relative imbalance or disconnection can allow abuse in a physical material way. Remove the physical, material distortion and the energy both penetrates and reflects, simultaneously.

Thus, thought energy directed with intent to harm, does so to both sender and recipient. The delay Earth existence creates does not operate in higher dimensions the same way. Sending thought energy with intent to harm hurts the sender immediately.

C:        Inclusion is achieved by invitation. If the membership want you, you will be asked.

C:        You are already known to them. You will not be invited, correct.

C:        To maintain the ranks, keep the numbers up.

C:        Not very much, what you describe is the universal city. The university.

C:        Companionship and inclusion are a large factor. The altruistic idea of maintain ideas and knowledge either dismissed or discouraged by organized belief systems – religions – is seen as a unifying force, a glue that binds.

C:        From the human perspective, power. From the greater spiritual point-of-view, not much. Transparence is both appealing and threatening. Supporters of the former perceive the latter, as influence builds.

C:        Wealth is only a human value choice, and yes, this holds great sway with the group. Because it effectively opens and closes doors.

C:        Heaven you describe.

C:        No, not solely. Many institutions and sets of ideas, in business and economics are also out of step, as it is, with Illuminati knowledge.

C:        These surround science, mostly. Spirituality and science are the same, yet on Earth the discrepancy of scientific knowledge is not seen to affect religion. The Illuminati hold certain ideas about science that are in conflict with known physics, especially in the dimensions with which humans cannot see their interaction.

C:        No, they are a European group originally and came to be as religion gained power and influence in the early part of the millennium after Christ.

C:        Yes, certainly.

C:        About four thousand, but the main membership is not approximate, it is an exact number. This figure is misleading, because all of them have great ability to influence their respective areas of work, business and activities, through institutions and staff associated with them. The many staff and employees are not aware of The Illuminati influence in things they are doing. Instructions part of strategies are seen to be what happens, by non-members in the employ of and in contact with Illuminati members.

C:        This is a subset of Illuminati essentially, and the nefarious, power hungry faction within The Illuminati are well represented with these Bilderbergs.

C:        No; the complete membership never physically meets.

C:        No. The Illuminati hold only ideas and knowledge, most of which are not considered valuable. There is nothing to steal that has value elsewhere. Infiltration would not achieve anything an infiltrator might want.

C:        This is not attractive; the membership already holds great power, position and influence. No member is interested in these things from another member and “outsiders” cannot surmount the barriers to acquiring wealth of another any better than could any person, unaware of Illuminati ideas. It is not possible to steal or attach a material portion of the assets of Illuminati members; they are too diversely help, too interspersed throughout societies for any one person or group of thieves to grab control or more than a fraction.

C:        The members themselves.

C:        The members, as they see need, circumstance and opportunity. The members are found, not made. The membership is already in agreement with much of Illuminati philosophy before approach. Inclusion is as much as anything, an affirmation and culmination of what the new member already has achieved, accomplished and believes.

C:        Yes, overall. The benefits provided, a balancing of ideas, will fade away as the ideas of wealth change on Earth. These change now. Wealth will truly be seen as the water in a river it is, always flowing, always moving. The idea savings remain anywhere is an illusion. As the reality of changing perceptions comes clear, so will collapse the notion of club exclusivity of ideas.

Money saved is only valuable if it can later be used to obtain something.

On Earth, soon, many things now seen as automatic, able to be obtained with ease, will no longer be available. This will erode the notion of wealth, and the pillars of it upon which many behaviors are built, will crumble.

C:        That religion is necessary. That religious notions provide access and salvation. That human souls outlive human bodies. That thoughts are completely confidential and private. These are a few areas of disagreement.

C:        Essentially they worship wealth and the power over humans wealth seems to provide. They act in ways that do not benefit both sides of their arrangements and activities. They act to accumulate, without need or benefit to do so.

We suggest clothing; it is possible town enough to spend more time awake changing garments than doing other things while wearing them. No human would do this. Automobiles. It is possible to acquire so many, they can never be enjoyed. The human owning a large number would forget the unique experience of the one after driving the twentieth or thirtieth car afterwards. The time required to maintain them would undermine the limited time dedicated to operating them.

In these examples, you see, there is a limit to enjoyment of the acquisition of power by wealth, as this limit relates to what can be done or achieved.

The nefarious members see such limits as barriers and restrictions and behave in a manner not altruistic, in the least.

C:        Because the many others see the behaviors as similar to their own, and perceive nothing improper. The difference is in degree and intrusion, and these do not occur quickly, or even over the short term. Mostly, because the nefarious members, selfishly pursuing their own objectives, do not disagree with Illuminati ideas.

C:        It means more command and control, organized and undertaken for the benefit of the controllers.

C:        No.

C:        No.

C:        All of you are already well organized, in good order. The organizations you create and operate will be modified by all of you collectively, as circumstances pressure you to change them. This reorganizing carried out by the creators of the institutions is always the fastest and most efficient method. The notions of perfection create the ideas of imperfection; we shall say to you all now, there is no imperfection in humanity. The better human word for imperfection is experience, and this is why you are where you find yourselves now.

C:        They enjoy the club, so why? We can say, some of the information will be shown as inaccurate, some precise and valuable but the naturally skeptical nature of more than a few loud, well known critics or pundits would quickly call into question the veracity of anything The Illuminati suggest.

Some members, especially the more selfish, are content and smug in their position and see no personal benefit in disassembling their smug, content view.

The majority of members doubt public acceptance, and believe it better to hold the asset, as they see it, until greater likelihood of good receipt comes along.

C:        No. Changes on Earth and to human societies will speed ahead of and around ideas of The Illuminati. Most humans will never know of their existence or ideas and this will not matter.

C:        Our pleasure, do ask again.

I will treasure this book for ever it will be a part of me for all eternity. Erik has found me and brought me so many great friends. He has changed my life dramatically. I now see my fairies and the change in the air when spirit is near. I hear Erik and see that loving face. He has become my fave coach. He share so much of himself to help us grow.

–Laurie

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