Nothing ushers in the weekend like love. At the very least, I hope it wraps our peeps in the northeast in a nice warm blanket of our care and concern. We send our prayers.

When I looked at the transcripts, I saw that the next three in a row had to do with love, so I couldn’t resist. I had to include them all. So, this post is a bit long, but you can curl up by the fire and read it over three days, so no whining, peeps! (Just kidding. Whining allowed. I do it all the time. In fact, as I told blog member Steve, I have more of a chance of winning the “Women Who Whine” contest than the “Women Who Shine” one!) Enough of this. What Erik had to say here just blew my mind. He was AWESOME!

Me: Okay, one more question for today. Where did hate and love actually originate? I guess that’s weird, because I think we humans think that they have to have an origin and they have to have some sort of location.

Jamie: Wait. Read the question again.

I do.

Jamie: That’s weird, because I didn’t think about it as coming from a place or a location, and Erik didn’t start talking that way either.

Erik: Hate and love are the same thing, and it’s part of the makeup of our soul.

Me: Okay.

(Pause)

Me: Keep on going!

Erik: Well fuck! It’s like you said. It’s not just the heart chakra energy. It’s not an organ in the body. It’s like your body is the speaker, like a music speaker.

Me: Mm hm.

Erik: And it can sound off the vibrations of love. Hate is love, by the way. I know I’ve said that before. I’m saying it again.

Me: It’s part of the spectrum, basically, right? The spectrum of light. All is light.

Erik: Yeah, that’s how pink is a lighter version of red.

Me: Okay. Got it. Got it.

Erik: But yet they call it something like it’s totally different.

Jamie laughs.

Erik: Instead of just calling it light red, like they do light blue. They don’t do dark blue. They call it indigo.

Me: I did your nursery in baby blue, Erik.

Erik: Aw. I did my diapers in Milk Dud brown.

Me: Gross.

Erik: Yeah, it doesn’t come from a specific part of the body, but the body is a speaker for it. The heart vibration works better in projecting love, but the solar plexus and the root is better at projecting physical love.

Me: Right.

Erik: Then there’s spiritual love. The crown and the third eye do better with that. Our whole body possesses it, carries it. It’s part of a huge lesson on Earth. I really think we come here to remember how to love.

Me: Wow. Goosebumps. That feels so true.

(Pause)

Me: And I think what this reader also wants to know is where love and hate originated in the whole scheme of things—in the Universe.

Erik: Well, it’s us! That’s like asking, “Who are we as humans?” It’s not an Adam and Eve story where two individuals experience this new emotion. There’s never been a fucking true emotion. It’s part of who we are, and we come to Earth to feel separate from it and discover what it is again. I think that’s why it feels like such a new and incredible concept.

Me: Mm Hm.

Erik: But when you die, it’s just like your average bear.

Jamie (laughing): Just like your average bear! It’s how you feel all the time?

Erik: Insanely full of love.

Jamie: Nice.

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Me: Here’s another submission: “Romantic love, in my opinion, is not the highest form of love, because there is always objectification involved. I think platonic love is the highest, purist form of love. Can you ask Erik about that, too?

Erik: Bullshit.

Me: Bullshit? Okay. 

Erik: Sex is awesome!

I laugh.

Erik: Look, the purest form of love contains vulnerability.

Me (surprised): Oh!

Erik: So, often—he’s right. The sex can get in the way, because people will feel reserved or shy, and they set up rules and guidelines and they get all fucked up in the head. But if they came into the intimate or platonic relationship with complete vulnerability—able to discuss everything the person is experiencing WITH AWARENESS—vulnerability plus awareness is the purest kind of relationship you can ever experience on Earth.

Me: Okay. Wow.

Erik: Try practicing those things, and then experience sex! That’s going to be off the fucking charts!

Jamie giggles.

Me: So, vulnerability has to be involved. That’s so interesting.

Erik: People shy away from that word so much. I know I did. I thought if I cracked open and actually shared all of my crazy that I would just flat out be identified as it. There would be no way I could go beyond that at all. I’d be categorized! That’s it!

Me (soberly): Yeah.

Erik: So, you know, I kind of stuffed it in and tried to walk around it, but in reality, if you hold the state of being vulnerable and honest and the other person that you’re with does the same, then you would not be categorized.

Me: I guess it’s like opening yourself up and letting people in.

Erik: Yes, completely. Letting yourself in as well. And then when you open up, you do it mentally, because that’s what humans think—that they’re controlling it with their mind powers. But it also opens up their chakras.

(Pause)

Jamie: I told him to tell me what he’s talking about, because most people believe that they can be opened or closed, and there’s not a door and he goes, “Yeah, yeah. It’s not like a door, but the energy shifts to where it wants to. Think of like instant root growth—”

Jamie (giggling): You just want to say the word, “phalanges”?

Me: Wow, Erik! That’s a big word! Highly technical, too!

Jamie: He scruffs up his hair and goes, “Oh, thank you, thank you.”

Erik: I’ll be signing autographs later. Okay, so like instantly the chakra opens up, and the phalanges of energy rushes out to meet the other person’s equivalent chakra to share space.

Me: Okay.

Erik: Just like your mental mind opens up and shares the open space with the other open mind, the energetic body follows suit, which supports—

(Long pause)

Jamie (to Erik): Yeeessss?

Erik (chuckling): I just wanted to see you hang on my word.

Me: Okay, okay. I’m hanging, too, I’m hanging, too.

Erik: –which supports emotional vulnerability, because if you have that mental connection and that energetic connection, then all of a sudden you feel that your emotions will never become bruised. I don’t think I can honestly say I’ve ever had that kind of human experience, but I’ve seen it in other people from where I am now. I know it’s possible. This is not some kind of guru ass talk where you go climb the mountain and duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. It really comes through learning the basis of communication while identifying that no matter how fucked up you are, you’re okay.

Me (sounding relieved and surprised.): Oh! That’s good.

Erik: Well, you know, it’s true. I think so many people are out there identifying and labeling themselves and being hard on themselves for not having a certain kind of experience.

Me: Experience is experience. All are valuable.

Erik: Thank you! Yeah, it can’t be compared to the ones that the dude next to you is having or someone halfway across the world is having.

Me: Exactly.

Erik: That’s the simple fact of being human. I could just talk all day about that.

Me: I bet you could. Well put, Erik.

Erik (with mock formality): Thank you, Mother.

Me: Your welcome, my boy.

I look back and wonder how we’ve digressed all over the map with this topic. Oh well.

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Me: Here’s one from the same blog member: “I believe that conscious monogamy, meaning monogamy that happens naturally and is not forced, is the most enlightened sort of relationship, because I believe that most who embark on polyamory”—I don’t know what that is—”will be just as ego-driven as those who might try to force monogamy. 

Jamie: Erik says he gets it. I’m like you. I got so lost.

Erik: First of all, I’d like to point out how opinionated this man is.

(God, I’m so sorry whoever you are. Feel free to give Erik a swift kick in the ass when you cross over, but you’ll have to stand in line behind me.)

Erik: He kind of made an assumption that didn’t quite fit. He’s gotta remember than everybody is so different. But if we’re talking in general, yes, forced monogamy by contract, by marriage definitely sucks. When he’s saying conscious monogamy where you get into a relationship and there’s an ease of commitment such as, “I want to be absorbed into this and I don’t want to reach out anywhere else.” There is such a beauty in it. That’s what the definition is of coming in with vulnerability. That’s what it gives. That is what conscious monogamy can give. Look at polyamory—having many relationships—

(My cat, Ringo is meowing in the background)

Erik: Hey, kitty.

(Pause)

Jamie: Erik is talking on and on to the kitty. It’s so funny.

(Pause)

Jamie: Oh, he stopped talking to the cat, and the cat stopped!

(Pause_

Jamie: Okay, that’s weird!

Me: What?

Jamie: When Erik stopped talking to the cat, I don’t hear the cat. Did he go into the other room?

Me: I don’t know, but I don’t hear him either.

Jamie: That was super funny on my end, because he was saying stuff about going out and getting drunk, and the cat would meow when Erik would stop talking. So, I told Erik to stop talking to the cat to see if he quits, and the cat quit meowing. That was, it was weird.

Me: Yeah, Ringo is the most vocal cat I’ve ever seen. Or heard, I guess.

(I think Ringo suspects something as I’m transcribing this, because he’s uncharacteristically all over my computer and me. I can hardly type. Thank god for spell check.)

Jamie: Erik’s looking at me like, “That’s so old news.”

Erik: Now, to say that someone has many relationships at once cannot have that same connection—now that’s just bullshit. That’s why I said the dude needs to rethink his question.

Me: Okay.

Erik: He’s trying to figure out where HE stands. So, there ARE people who can have many relationships at once and value them all in honestly and vulnerability. And it’s not an ego thing. It’s a community thing. It can actually be extremely balanced. There are not many of them. That’s why we’d like to assume that anybody who tries to do it is fucked, and our laws say that it isn’t cool to do that—that it’s wrong. And most of our religions say, “What? We’d like to control you and make you male/female partner only and one at a time.” So, that’s cutting down on a lot.

Me: Yes, it is.

Erik: Neither one is right nor wrong. It is what it is. It is how it is done that we need to look at. You have to come with that –

Jamie: He’s loving the word, “vulnerability.” He’s saying it again.

Erik: You have to come in with that vulnerability, and you have to resonate—does it work for you?

Me: Interesting.

Erik (laughing hard): Look at me, “The love doctor!”

Me: I know! The love guru!

All three of us laugh.

Jamie: I love that movie. He’s showing me, uh, he’s got a t-shirt on. It is, I don’t know. It’s dark. It’s either navy blue or black, and then on it he changed the lettering. It has kind of like tattoo art. Tattoo handwriting—“The love doctor.”

Me: Erik!

Erik: It’s awesome. I’m going to wear it around for a little while.