It’s easy for parents to focus on the negative experiences raising their children, and that’s been the case with me because the drama and conflict that ensued during the last 4 years of Erik’s life was terrible. But as I was taking my shopping cart full of groceries to the car, I had a flashback of me with kids in the cart, making race car sounds and pushing the car at a full run, weaving and turning to throw in the G-force fun. I remember the giggling like it was yesterday. Then I remembered how I had “Buddy Days” with each kid. Each one had their own day of the week (Thank god I didn’t have 8 kids) and we had a secret saying and handshake. I’d take them wherever they wanted and conversation would be open, loving and free. I remember playing hide-and-go-seek, taking bubble baths together, taking them horseback riding, homeschooling them, going on field trips everywhere, reading them bedtime stories, singing them lullabies, telling each one how grateful I am to be their mom, and, well, you get the picture. Even though it’s a very human thing to focus on the negative, I think it’s important focus on the positive. You’ll find there’s more there if you take the time to look. 

I just got an email from a blog member saying that Amazon emailed her to say Erik’s book was on it’s way and that she’d be getting it on Tuesday. I can’t wait to see how you guys like it! Please, please let me know!

Here’s Part Two of the Hell series. That sounds weird. 

Me: I remember how you were talking about how Hell can’t exist anyway because that would imply separation, and everything is God, so… Can you go through that?

Erik: Yes, the definition of Hell is the true absence of God or God Source, but God is an omnipresent omnibeing—all the omnis. It’s everywhere. Energy is everywhere, so you can’t pull away from it.

So, God is All There Is so Hell can’t be some separate thing.

Me: So you can’t have this separate Hell.

Erik: Right. The closest I can describe it is being on Earth in a human body—how we come into our bodies and choose to give up everything we’ve known before that, assuming that you want to talk like time is linear. We come into our bodies lacking information, so this is the closest to what people describe Hell as being.

I can vouch for that!

Me: Okay. Hell is on Earth!

Erik: Pretty much.

Me: If you believe in Hell when you first pass over, you create this idea of Hell, but it’s not really Hell. What’s the difference there? Is it an illusion instead of a reality?

Erik: It’s a creation instead of a reality.

Me: Okay. Does the brimstone [and fire] really burn?

Erik: If you believe it really burns, then I guess so.

Me: That’s horrible! Are you stuck there forever if you truly believe there’s a Hell?

Erik: Well, why is that horrible? That’s obviously something the person wanted to design for themselves. What are you judging it, Mama?

Me: I don’t know. Maybe they designed it for themselves but didn’t want to.

Erik: Well as soon as they don’t want to, they start designing those thoughts. As soon as they have those thoughts, then other options are provided for them even if they didn’t know how to create those other options. They’re leaving space for something else to arrive. Then, their time in fire and brimstone is over.

Me: One little pinkie toe in that fire and that’s enough, man. ‘There’s no Hell. Get me out of here!’ That’s what I’d do. All right, so what about the Devil? Is there such thing as the Devil?

Erik: Like the red, horned lizard looking dude?

Me: Yeah, you know, Halloween costume type, pitchforks and all.

Erik: No. No.

Me: So no types of devils. What about Lucifer? Did he exist? Does he exist?

Erik: Lucifer is an entity, yes.

Me: Tell me about him.

(Long pause)

Jamie: You are so funny, Erik. He calls him Luke.

Me: Yeah, just like your brother, Luke. But no relation, people. No relation to Lucifer. He might act like that sometimes, but…

I hope Lukas doesn’t read this!

Erik: What Lucifer turned into through storytelling and everything is far removed from what he really is.

Jamie: So when he said the word, “he,” he kind of showed me that Luke possesses masculine and feminine energy, so it’s not just a “he.” Just a heads up.

Me: It’s a She Devil, too, huh?

Jamie chuckles.

Erik: It basically just means someone who speaks against what is being presented.

???

Erik: It’s a great human quality. It doesn’t reside well in the energetic world.

Me: What? What do you mean?

Erik: Mom, think about all the conversations that we’ve had about anger, hatred, jealousy and things of that nature. The lower vibrational emotions don’t really work where I am now.

Me: Oh, well that’s true.

Oh, that’s what he meant by “energetic world.” I was confused because everything is energy so everything should be the energetic world.

Erik: They don’t vibrate as strongly, and they’re harder to hold onto. It’s harder to be in that space. That’s kind of what—

Jamie (smiling): It’s so funny that he calls him Luke.

Erik: That’s what Luke holds onto—the denser energetic qualities. They’re really special for humans. I don’t know why people take such joy in indem, adeim—

Jamie struggles with the word.

Me: Demonizing?

Jamie: No, not that word. It starts with an I.

Me: It’s probably not in my vocabulary. It’s probably in Erik’s.

Jamie: It’s probably a made up word, then!

She flings her head back and laughs.

Me (teasing): Erik, quit making up words!

You’re only confusing us more!

Erik: People blow the story out of proportion because they have God who is so great and okay and the best of best, so there has to be somebody with the title of the worst of the worst.

Me: Mm hm.

Erik: That’s just bullshit, people.

Me: All right. Did Lucifer actually fall from Heaven? Did God banish him?

Erik: No.

Me: So Lucifer is just basically an entity that represents the lower density qualities.

Erik: Yes, and the fall guy for all the bad shit that happens.

Me: Poor guy. Aw. I guess he signed up for it, though.

Erik: That’s okay, Mom. He knows better, so don’t worry.

I never thought I’d worry about Lucifer’s feelings.

Me: He’s not bad, is he? Or is he?

Erik shakes his head.

Me: Would you consider him evil?

Erik: I consider him being able to handle evil, but I don’t consider him to be evil.

Me: What do you mean, “handle evil?”

(Long pause)

Erik: So we have entities from other dimensional plans that do their best to reside on the human Earth plane. A lot of people describe them with words like demons, shadows, negative energies, possessions, hauntings, crap like that. Those are spirits who do fucked up shit to interfere with human life and take joy in it. That’s what I call evil.

Me: Okay.

Erik: So, Luke is a dude that can handle that stuff without working on that side.

Not working as evil, I guess.

Me: How does he “handle” it? Does he banish them? Does he stop them from doing evil? I mean—

Erik: Dude. Mom. There’s no banishing.

Me: I’m just trying to give you a multiple choice here, but you can choose “other” or “none of the above.”

Erik: Well, it’s hard because when we’re talking about these different variations of experiences, we want to categorize them as being great to good to bad when they’re all valuable. Just because there are qualities you consider bad doesn’t mean they get banned or punished. That’s a human concept. So Luke is an angel identity that’s able to work in low, low vibrational densities to help bridge, mend, create options. There’s no banishing or telling someone how it’s going to be. That’s human shit.

Me: So there is evil, then? How can there be evil when God or Light is All There Is.

Erik: Because God is composed of light and dark.

Me: Complete darkness? Or is there always Light? You described before, maybe you can do it again, how everything is on the spectrum [of light] but evil is just on the lower end. Can you tell me about that?

Erik: No, you did a really good job right there. It paints a good picture of it, doesn’t it?

Me: Yeah.

Erik: There are shades beneath red that [humans] don’t see, or there are so many shades above violet that [humans] don’t see. But when you die, you get to see it. You can go ahead and get excited about that right now. Go ahead.

Me (with a big smile, clapping my hands): Yay! Colors! Happy now?

Erik: Yes, and along with the colors comes a certain vibrational energy that come with emotions you don’t experience in a human body. It’s really a whole new world. God is composed of all of that. I’m just using the word, “God” because there’s just no…

Me: Yeah. It’s easy. Three letters. Easy to pronounce. We know what you mean: Source Energy, the Collective Consciousness, and All that Is. Blah, blah, blah. God is blah, blah, blah.

Erik: It’s everything. You can’t separate it. If you separate it, then the definition of All That Is is inaccurate. I don’t know why people—

Me: “All That Is *except” Asterix.

Erik: “Except this part over here that we’re going to call, “evil.”

Me: Wow, so evil is part of God. That is just so weird.

Erik: Yes! Why? Because you don’t know how to love it? Because you don’t like it?

Me: No, I don’t want evil. Why should I?

Jamie: He shrugs his shoulders.

Me: I hope the part of God that is evil doesn’t smite me right now, but no, I don’t like evil. Who would?

Erik: There is no hunting down and attacking you.

Me: I know.

Can’t he tell when I’m kidding by now?

Erik laughs.

(Long pause)

Erik: What next?

Me: I don’t think we finished that one. Why should I like evil?

Erik: You don’t have to like it, but you don’t have to not like it.

Me: Okay, what’s to like about it. Maybe I can rephrase it [that way.]

Erik: Because from lower vibrational qualities comes a new perspective of other vibrational qualities.

(Pause)

Me: Go on.

Erik: A lot of times, in the human experience, if you have a struggle and you get through it, you cherish or value the results from the struggle in a different way than when it was first handed to you.

Me: Okay.

Erik: It’s all about needing an experience. We come to Earth to have experiences, and if it’s all just good shit and good vibrations—

Cue in the Beach Boys now.

Erik: –you’re not going to get much variety in your experience, are you? You might as well be dead to begin with.

Me: It’s like you have to experience hot to understand cold.

Erik: Yes, that’s right.

Me: So you have to experience betrayal sometimes to understand that facet of love called forgiveness.

Erik: Right, and because we have these extremes in the vibrational patterns, people say, “Oh, I really like this, and I really don’t like that. All that I like is totally acceptable, and all that I don’t like is completely unacceptable.” All of a sudden one thing is labeled bad, and the other thing is labeled good.

Me: Okay.

Erik: It’s just perspective.

Me: Okay. Anything else you want to say about Hell, the Devil, good, evil? In the next session, we’re going to talk about possessions and demons and shadows and negative energies. All that kind of stuff. But anything else you want to say before we wrap it up, Baby Boy?

Erik: No. Let’s talk about that other stuff.

Me: Well, we’ll close off here.