Science & Spirituality – Continued

More detail was suggested on this recent topic. I warned it could be detailed, but the comment suggested it would be worthwhile; that proof gains acceptance. This last aspect is more of a challenge, which I enjoy as much as scientific aspects, so let’s see. Skeptics certainly enjoy their power of doubt, strength of uncertainty and force of disbelief so, let’s see how far The Committee might draw these down.

(East of Kaikoura, New Zealand, Moby Dick’s great, great nephew gone fishin’)

 As always, E = Erik, ST = substitute teacher  C = The Committee

ST:       I mentioned spirituality as the environment of beings in non physical matter compared to existence on Earth in dense matter. Is this a good definition?

C:        Yes, but we must say that density of matter is not as limited as you see on Earth. Densities are seen within a range of vibrations.    

E:         We gotta get a new dictionary, Webster’s University New Age of the Spiritual Realm. It’ll have words in it like “hoverform” and “flyboard”.

ST:       Please explain density within ranges and why Erik’s words make sense.

C:         Smoke will pass through a screen. Imagine a three dimensional screen; a screen box, if you will. One meter along each side, squares inside the screens of 5mm (½ cm) and 200 screens arranged at 5mm between them, forming cubes throughout. Smoke still passes through easily.

The matter of existence in a higher dimension passes through that of a slower vibration in this same way; the material of the upper range threads through the lower range’s vast space inside & between the atoms – the great majority of the space is within them, not between – without restriction, just as the smoke does through the screen box.

Solid panels will be used to fly and hover and these concepts, of an energy of a higher vibration able to pass through a slower one, will be used to create anti-gravity and anti-drag capabilities.

ST:       How does this happen?

C:       The speeds are much different; the higher vibration speed “misses” the slower, goes around it. Imagine a motorcycle threading through slow cars in traffic. If there were a speed difference of 40 times or greater, this means at a car speed of 2 kph the motorcycle goes at least 80 kph (40 x 2). As long as the cars are a sufficient distance apart, the motorcycle can easily adjust course to avoid any car’s movement.

ST:       How far apart?

C:         Far is an Earth term; time is location. In this example, the cars would be approximately 100-120 metres apart from each other. The motorcycle can easily avoid vehicles 100 metres apart at 2 kph. The distances inside an atom are larger, yet this example is instructive.

ST:       What does this mean, time is location?

C:        These relative speeds of vibration require, within a range, movement to shift locations. The movement is what is perceived as time. Where movement occurs in a different way, time does not pass in a linear fashion and is not sequential.

This means time can appear to pass faster or slower relative to other things. The sensation of time going slow as one falls down is an example, or making a trip in 10 minutes that normally requires 15, this another. In both time is altered.

ST:       How is this done?

C:       The relative vibration of your body and physical device, a bicycle or car, is accelerated relative to surrounding matter a few percent. You then move around – but not through – that surrounding material more quickly.

ST:       Why doesn’t it seem like I am travelling faster? Why does my watch read the correct time but somehow I arrived much earlier?

C:           The sensation of speed to which you refer occurs when the movement between locations involves vibrations of the same speed; when an object is accelerated above speed, yet remains within the vibrational range, it causes the slower vibration to flow around it. The higher speed object displaces the slower. An example is a ship in the water; its hull displaces the water and causes it to flow under and around the ship.

Recall we said time is movement. You move the same distance, so it is the same amount of your “time”. The perception of the time is what you observe visually; the speed of light photons in your range is 300,000 km per second of your “time”. The increase in your speed to ½ faster is still so much slower than light, you do not notice.

Imagine the view of the ground from an aircraft travelling at 800 kph at an altitude of 18,000 metres, glance at the Earth’s surface for several seconds and there seems to be no movement. Look at the surface this same way from a balloon at an altitude of 150m moving at 5 kph in a gentle breeze. Both give a sensation of relative stillness, yes? Which travels faster, the aircraft or the balloon?

ST:       Can you relate this to spiritual concepts?

C:         You who know English will remember your singer, John Lennon of the Beatles, who sang “Mother Mary comes to me, speaking words of wisdom, let it be, let it be.” This is how she went to him as he lived on Earth. This is the way all things move inside a dimension and between them. This is how your Erik can retrieve a person with whom your group wishes to speak.

E:         It’s like this; when I know I’m supposed to go get Frank Sinatra, I don’t call the bartender, but that would have worked sometimes on Earth. I think of him and imagine his appearance and look forward; what I’m looking at turns a gray or sometimes fades to a dull light and then swooshes past and reappears in reverse and the place I want to go shows up, and the dude is there.

ST:       What’s surrounding the person you go to see?

E:         The place they were when I went looking.

ST:       Do you have a physical sensation?

E:         No.

C:       The physical sensation occurs within a range of densities; all beings in a physical body have it. What you feel when falling is this. Your soon to be seen visitors also experience this.

ST:       Can this movement ever happen with a physical body?

E:         Sure can, happens at the time. As soon as you see the technology for it, many humans will get to try.

C:         Indeed there will be moments of this; where it is of benefit for a human to remain in a consciousness condition, as events of the shift and its aftertime unfold, and experience certain moments, yes some will experience this.

ST:       Why?

C:      Beliefs are immutable; there exists no force to shift a belief. No power there is, in the universe of any dimension, to change a belief. Only an opinion can be coerced; the belief will follow the opinion only willingly. This travel will be useful, as the opinion of that moment such person might have, might not serve the believer’s better interests. The alternatives shown provide opportunity to reconsider. The distinct recall of the experience will mean much more. The demonstration given, as the body sleeps, can be “lost” or taken from immediate availability to memory, as the person returns to the shell.

E:         This is why I say these wars are so fuckin’ pointless. Some jerk thinks victims won’t be able to defend themselves? Maybe, but what the victims believe is what’ll make ‘em successful, not how many guns one or the other has.

ST:       Explain this, Erik.

E:         Why attack or invade? What the victims do about it is what they believe, what they think. If the attacker can force the target to give in, the attacker gets control but beliefs are rivers; can’t bury ‘em. They’re comin’ back up and they usually wash away whatever the attacker gained. Stupid war shit doesn’t work.

ST:       Erik, sounds like Afghanistan.

E:         Damned right. Look at the Russian thing and now the USA, Great Britain and a bunch of other countries. Anybody ever confuse the Americans or British with Russians? Same thing happened. Eliminating the attackers that wouldn’t give up, to prevent another attack, just like you’d fight back if attacked on the street? OK but do you then round up friends and family and start a war with the attacker’s family? So stupid. People believe what they believe, you show them love and choices as soon as you’ve protected yourself.

C:        Erik has identified just how dynamics of the relative vibrations apply to humanity. You are all a being of spirit and have a level of vibration separate from the body you occupy. Your beliefs and ideas are a combination; the true belief all of you hold is never and cannot be forced. This is an absolute and it is through the ability to move, shift location and bend the dense matter perception of time, that ideas and alternatives are shown to you. This is how we show you we love you. Your belief is always your choice. The alternative shown to you, that which is truth and certain for you, will resonate with your soul like a beautiful song. The notes will create a resonance of pleasure and a feeling of joy within you, just as you will feel when the idea shown is of this truth. It is always your choice to select, hold, examine, adopt or reject in any way you prefer, at any time.

E:         When you get to Earth, you get to see the places and people that match and miss these things and then you get to see the truth about them. Ya learn a lot.

ST:       How could a doubter be convinced?

C:         The idea or concept of a doubter is not the way to observe the universe. To refer with this word “doubter” to a person who shares not a belief you like places you in a position of superiority? There is no superior or inferior, there is no convincing. Perhaps the greatest lesson to humanity is that it is not possible to convince. Many leaders have slipped erroneously from the notion of control through power and force into one of commanding beliefs, and we do say truly the review of life experienced by such leader is a well watched documentary. To observe the growth that happens in such a short space as when this person comes to realize this, it reinforces the value and desire of all souls to desire yet more growth and enlightenment upon Earth or another planet where such experience is available.

ST:       Many people see science and measurement of physical things and effects. How is this related to spirituality?

C:         They are the same; to drive a car requires not a mechanic but the car is the result of many mechanical operations and steps taken to produce the device. The definitions, the parameters of science extend far beyond your understanding of it. It is this science that will reveal your spirit, what it is and who you are. All things become clear as this is understood. In the moment you will again see and know what these two things are. Your beliefs we be reopened and recalled.

ST:       Nevertheless, many on Earth say these things are fantasy and so, do not exist.

C:         Does the moon exist? Does the sun exist? Does the solar radiation from it exist? When in your human history of the past 60 centuries did these things not exist? Suddenly they did. When did humanity rediscover electricity? Chemistry? When was nuclear energy unlocked? When, following the pattern of discovery and development of all these things, at what point can you project forward that you have reached or will attain the limit of what there is to know? It is assumed that, because you know of it not, it is not. Oh, but it is.

ST:       Then why all of the skepticism of aliens and crop circles and UFOs?

C:         You do not see them in the way you want.

ST:       What way should we see them?

C:         Your books called the Bible and Koran; they are read in many languages by people who understand only the language in which they read. The books were first written in languages far different, what was the Hebrew, the Aramaic and the Arabic of the moment. Those codes of communication have evolved much since used then. Does that make the book from that time have less meaning or does it make the book of today have more meaning?  Look at the English spoken and used in the time and place where William Shakespeare lived and ask if these expressions, these idioms and phrases might be as easily understood today, in English? Has the evolution caused the meanings to decay and erode? How should you see these things? Is the way you prefer to see them – in the language you can understand – the ONLY way to see them?

E:         And the steering wheels in cars CAN be on the other side.

C:         You cannot see the visitor ship for one simple effect; it produces an energy field around the hull that prevents light you see on Earth from reaching. It is not cloaked or covered. Visible light you can see does not reach her. She moves through the universe at a speed your vibration does not detect. Earth understanding of science will say this is impossible. So it is true; open a book not, study of it not make, the test you will not take.

E:         You’ve got a fleet around the Earth right now.

ST:       When are we going to see these ships? Show us!!!

C:         Some of you see them now, and some of you have even recorded the image. Nearly all of humanity will see some of them, at some point.

ST:       People will be scared.

C:         Scared of your own planes are you? So you will quickly see your fear has no merit, and your understanding will be better.

ST:       Why are these things hidden from Earth?

C:         Your friends are not hidden from you. This term is a product of an Earth point-of-view, as is this word “convince”. You do not see them, many of you, only because your choice was to live on Earth in a circumstance where this would not be possible. They are not being kept from you. Do you hide your knowledge of literature, of wood working or a musical instrument from your young child or is the child yet unable to read, use tools or play music? The growth and evolution of this child will make all these things possible, just as the shift and ascension of humanity will make all of you aware of things all around that are, for a moment, just outside perception. The ability to play a guitar cannot be forced. In this way, the intersection of sciences and explanations of what is understood as spirituality will come together as the ways and routes are shown to you all.

Until our next visit, fare all well.

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