I’m doing the coolest experiment as a vlog, y’all! I have three glass jars, each filled with a little rice that’s then covered with water. Every day for a month, I’m going to say, ‘Thank you’ to jar #1, ‘You’re an idiot!’ to jar #2 (I always feel really bad when I do that one.) and I completely ignore jar #3. (I feel a little guilty doing that, too.) The purpose is to see what effect intent/thought has on another life form. I’ll post it when it’s done. I hope I wasn’t supposed to use distilled water or measure equal amounts of rice and water to the nearest gram. If that’s the case, the experiment’s doomed, and I will have been uncharacteristically nasty to a living creature for nothing. Actually, is rice living?  Okay, here’s the post. Last one for God.

Me: You also said that God is Love. So Love is a form of energy then, I guess.

Erik: It is. Love is the basis of energy especially [where Earth] is concerned.

Me: What do you mean?

(Long pause)

Jamie: He’s talking in circles. Hold on. He’ll get it together; he’ll get it together.

Erik: For Earth’s vibrations and for Earth’s purposes, being human—remember I keep trying to preach that being human is more about being an emotional being, about emotions. That’s kind of the special treat about being human. So if we’re looking at how God Source energy interacts with Earth life, it’s going to do so with emotional character. That’s the role that it plays with us. That’s the value for us. If you want to go live a different life on a different planet, then you’re going to get a slightly different character. Maybe it’s about survival. Maybe it’s about community. Maybe it’s about conflict. Here, it’s specifically about authentic emotional quality.

Me: What do you mean?

Erik: What do you mean, what do I mean?

We can play this game all day.

Erik: I mean if you’re coming to Earth, if you’re choosing human life, you’re choosing a life that’s based on emotion. That’s the value of coming to Earth.

Me (confused as usual): Now what does that have to do with God? Maybe I need another sip of coffee!

I take a sip. Actually a gulp.

Me: There we go.

Jamie: That’s exactly what he said, He said, “Mom, drink your coffee!”

Erik: But the thing about God Source’s energy and how it is everything, I’m just trying to describe a little bit more by saying if God Source energy is working with Earth within all the belief systems, all the religions, all the life, all the things like the inanimate stuff, the animals, the way it interacts with us is through emotional value.

I guess that’s all I’m going to get.

Me: Okay.

Erik (annunciating each word): Authentic emotional quality.

Me: Instead of what? What other options would there be besides that?

Erik: You’d have to go to a different planet for that, Mom.

Me: I’ll put that on my itinerary.

Jamie (laughing): Yeah on your to-do list.

Me: “Check!” All right. Tell me about your first meeting with God, Erik.

Jamie: He’s doing that soundtrack again.

She moves her hands like a rapper deejay.

Erik: My first meeting with God was—

(Long pause. Jamie is clearly discussing something with Erik to herself.)

Jamie: Sorry. I’m listening to music right now in my head, apparently. He’s trying to take me off track. It’s that 70s song—please don’t make me sing it.

Me: Please don’t.

Jamie: Lady Love? Ma, my lady.

Me: Oh, right.

Jamie: My Endless Love!

Me: Yeah, okay. That one.

Jamie mouths the words.

Me: I’m not going to sing it. We both aren’t. It’s too early in the morning [unintelligible as we talk over each other.]

Erik: That’s what it felt like, and it was more of a feeling than anything. When you die, it’s not like you go straight to this center energy, this God Source. You don’t have to. There’s no reporting system here. You, you know, you report to yourself. You get to look at your experience. You get to look at what you’ve done with what you had available.

(I hear the classic Siri tone beep off to Jamie’s right.)

Erik: You get to decide those things. God doesn’t do that.

Jamie slowly turns her head to the right, eyes widened.

Siri: Checking. Okay. I found something on the web for “experiences you didn’t look at what you’ve done.”

Me: Siri is another form of God!

(Silence as Jamie and I ponder this.)

Jamie gets up and moves away from the sight of the camera.

Jamie: It’s just sitting on the chair.

Me: Oh, Erik. Stop! He must have pushed the button. He wants Siri to join us.

Jamie comes back, looking at her phone.

(Pause as she reads it)

Jamie: Siri is searching for experiences you didn’t look at what you’ve done.

Me: Wow! Erik, are you bossing Siri around?

Jamie (putting her iPhone’s screen in front of the camera): Quotes about regrets.

Me: Oh my god! Erik, did you do that?

Jamie: He’s saying, “yes.”

Me: Yeah, because you can’t access Siri without pushing the home button for a long time.

Jamie puts her phone down, then flings her hand up in a “I don’t know what the hell just happened” move.

Me: So, Erik, I guess you’re not going to provide all the answers. You’re just going to dump it all on Siri, huh?

Jamie (chuckling): He’s laughing.

Erik: Maybe you should ask Siri these questions.

Me: I guess so! No, seriously. Back to your meeting with God.

Erik: You come across God because you want to. You go to Prime Source energy because you desire it, you want it, not because you have to report or that you’re going to be judged, looking at the good child, bad child of what your life was about. About the time that I decided to speak with God was when we were deciding to do something much bigger than what we were doing, you and I, Mom, and what that would look like. So, for me, it was more helpful in an overall way for all the other lives that I have chosen to experience, and how could I do that with—

Jamie: He’s making lights go off in the room.

Jamie looks around the room.

Me: Rein him in, Jamie.

Jamie: What is this? It’s like the world of phenomena.

Me: That’s Erik.

Jamie: I’m having a hard time focusing anyway!

Jamie takes a sip of coffee.

Me: Pull back your energy [Erik.]

Jamie: Yeah. Pull it in. Pull it in.

Erik: So I was using God much like a resource to make sure that what you and I wanted to do, creating, manifesting—again, I’m speaking in linear terms because that’s the way we understand things. Through that, I got to experience, with God, instantaneously, All That Is. You know how—

Jamie: Eminem? (Laughing) He says you have to lose yourself in the moment.

We both laugh.

Me: Marshall Mathers! That’s his real name.

Erik: Well, in the moment of communicating with God or connecting to God Source energy, you lose yourself in the moment. You don’t surrender yourself. You don’t burn up your consciousness and delete everything. It’s not that. You surrender the concept of designing your experiences to fit your understanding, to feed you. All of a sudden, you’re experiencing the whole all at once.

Me: Okay. What did that feel like?

(Long pause, then Jamie looks extremely embarrassed.)

Jamie: God Erik!

She takes a moment to compose herself.

Me: Come on, Jamie. I know it’s early, but…

Jamie: Snap to it, right? He is confusing me left and right.

Erik: What does it feel like? For a human it would feel like the peak of a climax, an orgasm—

Me: I figured he was going to say that.

Erik: –that continues. It stays there. The whole body feels cracked open. The whole part of your energetic soul, your soul, your spirit feels cracked open, feels the presence of everything, and nothing is overwhelming. Nothing is scary or shocking. It’s just the a-ha moment that lasts forever. And it’s your free will choice to step back from it or step into it. You’ll notice that most of the spirits that you come across that are working to help humans, to help the Earth, to help these dimensional planes, you know, to work better and to be better, find that when they step away from God Source energy, they can understand the humanness of the experience.

Jamie: He’s showing me magnets. You know, one on one side and one on the other. The little soul is in between. One magnet is the Earth and one is God Source energy, and the little piece of metal (the soul) goes to one, then the other, then to the other.

Erik: This is the dance that a soul in the human body will do until it lets go of the human body. It’s the human body—the physical—keeping it a very dense energy that gives the false illusion of being separated from God Source energy, to not be God. So I like that visual of the magnets because we have these a-ha moment when we’re kind of closer to the God side and then we have these moments when we feel very dense and very human. We kind of teeter back and forth. When you get out to the body—take off the metal piece—the magnets will actually come together. You don’t have to play middleman. That’s what it’s like to be a spirit—God Source energy everywhere. You’re together and you decide your level of focus. You don’t feel like you’re pulled or not in control.

Me: So you decide if you want to feel more separate or if you want to feel more a part of the whole?

Erik: Yeah. Those are pretty lame words, but it describes it really, really well.

Gee thanks.

Jamie: The lights.

Me: Lights are going off and on in the room?

Jamie: I know it’s not me. If it starts to be me, someone needs to let me know.

Me (reading through my notes): Okay, let me see. So you said it didn’t have a beginning. I think we asked everything.

Erik: It exists. It exists.

Me: Anything else you have to say on this? I mean, God’s a pretty big subject so if you have anything else to say, please do so.

Erik: Even if you choose not to believe in God, you actually believe in God.

Me: How so?

Erik: Ba boom.

Jamie mimics his gestures in a way I can’t possibly describe.

Erik: Because this Prime Source energy is omnipresent, omni-being and omni-everything. It’s there so there’s no such thing as true absence.

Me: So when the lights are on in the room, you can see all the furniture, but when the lights are off, you can’t see the furniture but it’s still there. Is that what you’re saying?

Erik: Yeah, I like that. Yeah.

Me: Anything else before we close?

Erik: Nah. Let’s just tell people—

Jamie (laughing): Please don’t do this. This is Erik’s humor. Erik is saying you have to do this.

Erik: I just think we’ve confused everybody so much you should go have a joint, go get high, drink some wine and chill out with these thoughts and see how they resonate with you.

Me: Disclaimer time!

Jamie laughs.

Me: Contact your physician or your mental health professional.

Jamie: Yes, and I would say, meditate.

Jamie keeps laughing all the way up to our goodbyes.