I thought Erik was finished talking about “talking” but in retrospect I realize he wasn’t. Let’s see what else he has to say about the language of the Beyond.
Me: What do you call the language?
(Pause)
Me: In that language. Say the name of the language in that language.
Jamie: We’re having a bit of an argument. He’s saying, “I don’t fucking know, because it’s not like when you die you go to school and you learn how to speak this language.”
Erik: You just instantly know how to do it. It’s just part of you. It’s like an emotional language, but it does have words, It’s not heavy on labels and conjugation. You don’t have to sit down and learn it. It’s not a foreign language.
Me: How do you say, “How are you”?
(Long pause)
Jamie (to Erik): No.
Jamie: He looked at me; his eyes got a little bit more wide, and he put his hands out and said, “Did you get it?”
Me (Laughing): Oh!
Jamie: I know, right? The most that I understood was, “I love you.”
Me: Aw! So you can speak it, but we can’t receive it.
Jamie (to Erik): Oh, so I got it as an emotion. As love.
Me: Oh!
Jamie: But then I translated it into words, “I love you,” instead of just receiving love.
Me: How interesting.
Erik: Yes, because if you’re asking how somebody is, you’re showing care; you’re showing love for them.
Me: All of this is so fascinating. Okay so what if I say, “How does the Universe really work”?
(Pause)
Jamie: Hey, that one actually came from me! Yay!
I chuckle.
Jamie: It’s easy around Erik, now. I got this picture in my head and this picture of complete unity like I was—I still had my own skin—but I was in relation with everything around me, not just the room or the city or the United States or Earth. It was something larger—solar systems and so forth. It looked like an electric spider web that had a light source to it. It was intricately woven and very 3-D. It was not like a flat image at all, but I did feel like I was looking at it from an outside source. I wasn’t in it, because he was trying to give me the image, but Erik said if I tried to hang onto it more, I would have gotten more of the concepts that he was trying to fly by.
Me: Did you get any feeling or emotion along with it or were you not hanging on long enough?
Jamie: No, the feeling was just complete unity, complete acceptance, that there wasn’t anything that was unnatural or out of place or going against the curve.
Me: Ah, that’s awesome. Lucky you!
Jamie (chuckling): He pointed at me and said, “That’s even about your pain.”
(Erik’s referring to Jamie’s neck pain from a car accident, no fault of her own, that she had about a year ago.)
Me: What, you’re one with your pain? That sucks! You need to pick that one little spider web off!
Jamie laughs.
Me: Can you do that?
Erik: You can peel it off, but you can’t destroy it, nor can you change it. If you place it somewhere else, it might be somebody’s joy, not somebody’s pain. It doesn’t always give the same reaction.
Me: Okay. Anything else you want to communicate to us about communication?
Erik (laughing): I love the subject, even though it’s hard to translate it well. Humans are kind of stuck in the idea that they have to use their voice to communicate. It’s bullshit.
Me: Well, it’s hard. It’s really hard, but I get what you’re talking about. I really do, Erik, because when we talk, there are visual and emotional components to our communication, but the person on the other side only receives the words. A certain inflection and tone of our voice can translate some of the emotion but not all of it. And we can describe some of the visuals, but not all of it and not completely. They can’t see what we see. So, it’s frustrating, even here.
Jamie: He’s smirking and nodding his head.
By the way, here’s a better link to Erik and Jamie’s monthly radio show debut:
http://www.thedrpatshow.com/
Also, the next small group channeling call will be on January 10th and the small group grieving parents group will be January 24th. If you’re interested, sign up before the spots are filled. You can click on the Love and Light icon on my homepage, then go to “products and classes” on Jamie’s page. You’ll find the links on her “personal growth” page.
