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Channeling Transcript
Jamie: Hi!
Me: Hi, Jamie! How’re you doing?
Jamie (giggling): Fine. Erik showed up about thirty minutes into my last session.
Me: Ooo. Hope he didn’t make any mischief.
Jamie: No, he was so nice! He didn’t do anything. And I kept looking at him like, “C’mon. What is it? What are you going to do?”
Me (laughing): Oh God!
Jamie: And he didn’t to anything! Nothing. He’s so calm.
Me: Such a good boy!
Jamie: Oh, but he is dressed today.
Me: Oh, really?
Jamie: Like “dressed.”
Me: What, dressed to the nines?
Jamie: Yeah, he—
Me (teasing): He doesn’t usually show up naked does he?
Jamie: No! Usually he comes in jeans and a t-shirt. That’s usually how I see him, but today I see him in a jacket made up of some black shiny kind of material. I don’t see a tie or anything, but he does have on a dress shirt and dress pants.
Me: Wow! Spiffy! You must have a hot date tonight, Erik!
We all laugh.
Jamie (alarmed): Do you hear all those voices on the phone?
Me: No, I don’t hear anything.
Jamie: Hello? Hello? (pause) Oh God, once I said hello they all went away.
(Pause)
Jamie (in a motherly warning tone): Erik? Don’t mess with the phone.
Me: Oh please no! You little sneakster!
Jamie: He did that really bad with his dad. He kept hanging us up, and we had such a hard time getting back in touch with each other!
Me: Oh, yeah. I remember that! And that was Rune’s first session with you!
Jamie (laughing): I know!
Me: Okay, let’s get down to the questions, I guess. Erik, I’ve asked this before, but let’s see if you have any more to say. What is the spiritual basis for obesity?
Erik: Spiritual? That’s totally a human battle. You know what, we have zero obesity here.
Me: No, I mean what is the reason, uh, you know…(I’m struggling to explain, and Erik sits back enjoying my squirming immensely. Then he lets me off the hook. Tag and release.
Erik (laughing): I get it! I get it! I’m just playing! I just thought I’d ride your horse.
Me (chuckling): Okay, smart ass!
Erik: The spiritual lesson for coming in—remember Mom, you gotta break it down. Are they obese cuz they have a thyroid issue, cuz of digestive problems, or are they putting food in their face in place of emotions for things they can’t handle?
Me (laughing): No, I don’t need a medical discourse on the causes for obesity.
Erik: Really—
Jamie (to Erik): Dude! (pause) Okay, okay!
Erik: The people who put food in their mouths in place of emotions—
Jamie hesitates to channel what Erik says, but finally gives in:
Jamie: Fine.
Erik: They’re sissies.
(Pause)
Jamie: Hold on. I’m having a bit of a battle with him.
(Pause)
Jamie (to Erik): Yes, show them. Okay, fine!
Jamie (to me): I’m going to say exactly what he saying word for word.
Erik: They’re sissies. They’re not strong enough to commit suicide, so they’re just slowly killing themselves. That’s in addition to the reasons I shared with you the other day.
Me: Oh my gosh.
Erik: Those are people who just wish they were dead. It is a way of choking—you know how you can just choke something out?
Me: Oh yeah, yeah.
Erik: It’s like a slow choking mechanism. There’s one more. I forgot to talk about this. There are people who come in and never get grounded to their own bodies.
Me: Oh, yeah.
Erik: Those are usually those aliens who come down to earth from other stars. They get here, and it’s just so fucking out of their norm that they don’t want to take care of the body; they don’t know how to do it. They’re frustrated with the physical. They’re not grounded at all. It’s not an emotional thing, you know. It’s completely not liking the physical body whatsoever. And then they destroy it by over-feeding it or—let’s look at the other extreme—not feeding it at all.
Me: Ah, like anorexia nervosa?
Erik: Yep.
Me: Very interesting. Okay, now here’s another one I want to see if you have more information on: What is God made of. What IS God? Just a little minor question there!
Erik (chuckling): Let me sum that up for you in two sentences!
We all laugh.
Erik: God is energy. Energy is a living, thriving source that has divided and spread like some contagious—
Jamie (in mock frustration): He uses the word disease.
Me: Oh! Better watch out, Erik, lest God smite you—whatever that means.
Erik: You’re placing judgment on a word, Mom. You’re thinking that disease is a negative.
Me: Oh, yeah, that’s right!
Erik: Disease can be extremely positive! It serves as a huge catalyst for a lot of people. But I just wanted to use the word “contagious,” because that energy spreads everywhere! Without its existence, we wouldn’t have created—
Jamie: Oh, God, Erik!
Erik: We would not have created ourselves. I say that, because God is in all of us.
Me: Yeah, exactly.
Erik: There’s such a stigma on the word, “God.” I really wish we could just erase that and come up with something else.
Me: Yeah, I guess it implies that it’s a separate thing, and it’s not.
Erik: You’re right; it’s not! So that question may well have been, “What am I made of?”
Me: Yeah, yeah. So you already told me some about when you spoke to God. Anything else?
Erik: Yeah.
Me: Okay, what about? Did you just shoot the breeze like talk about the Superbowl or say “How ‘bout them Yankees?”
Erik (chuckling): No, no. We all just sit on a red velvet couch and smoke cigars. That’s what we do.
Jamie and I laugh.
Erik: Yeah, Jesus, God, Krishna, all of us.
Me: Wow, that’s one helluva party!
Erik: Maybe we get around to playing poker.
Me: Hope it’s not strip poker.
Erik: No, but seriously, the conversations you have with God aren’t like a telephone call where you know what you’re dialing and you know the voice you’re going to hear in return. When you connect to the pure Source of energy, It communicates with you in a way that you understand. It can change and morph into anything It needs to be to place you in a comfort zone so that you can feel at peace with it. So when you connect with God and you have conversations with God, one day, you might need that strong God—the one that just tells you “Yes,” “No.” And then some days you need the God that just wants to sing to you, cuddle you, I don’t know, just be with you.
Me: Does that have something to do with matching vibrational frequencies? Is there physics behind how God changes? I mean, if you have one of those days where you think you need to be bitch slapped to go on the right road, does your vibrational energy have anything to do with how—
Erik: Yeah, cuz when you change your emotional status, that changes your thoughts, your vibrational energy.
Me: Um hm.
Erik: And when you tune into pure Source, if you’re—let’s just remember that Pure Energy or God is nonjudgmental, so no matter what you come with, that Source is not going to look at you and say, “No, you’re not going to understand what I’m going to say, because you’re angry, or you’re a lower vibration, or you’re not seeing it the way I’m seeing it.” That never exists. Just delete that whole framework. Whatever you come with—your willingness to connect with Pure Source, with God—God will match where you are but not lessen the information.
Me: Oh, okay. Wow.