Me: Erik, what do you want your role to be with this celebrity interview book? It seems like in an earlier session, you said you wanted to do the interviewing.
Jamie: Oh, is that why he jumps in with questions like “what’s your favorite color?” and “what’s your favorite animal?”
Jamie and I laugh.
Me: So, how do you want to work this so that you’re a big part of it?
Erik: Well, we have that list of questions we prepared together. So you can ask those questions, and then at the end, I’ll ask some.
Me: Oh, okay.
Erik: My main job is going to be to find them and bring them forward and help them communicate.
Me: Oh, because some of them have trouble, don’t they?
Erik (chuckling): Yeah.
Me: And you don’t!
Jamie (giggling): No he doesn’t, does he?!
Me: Oh, and why is it that so many of these celebrities die at the age of 27?
Erik: Two plus seven is nine. That’s the number that represents closing or closure. Usually, that means it’s their exit point, at least one of them.
Me: Okay. That makes sense. So, who do you want to bring forward today, Erik?
Erik: Well, we have time for three people. Give me the names, and I’ll go get them.
Me: Let’s see. I definitely want to interview Lady Di since her son is getting married now, so how about her, John Lennon and Jimi Hendrix?
Erik: Mom, it’s Princess Di.
Me: Excuuuuuuse me! Okay, Princess Di. Sorry!
Jamie (giggling): Okay, he’s gone. He didn’t even say goodbye or anything!
Me: Now we need to play the Jeopardy theme song or make cricket sounds while we’re waiting.
Jamie: Oh, hi! I know who this is, because I can immediately tell by the round glasses. This is John Lennon.
Me: Oh, good!
Jamie (to John): You still have glasses on!
John: It’s part of my image!
Jamie and I laugh hard.
Jamie: Okay. He apparently likes them!
Me: And you wear them well! So John, you do understand that we’re not here to exploit, right? We just want to give you a voice.
John: Oh, yeah. I know. I’ve heard. I spent most my life with a voice. Wouldn’t you know it, when I decided I didn’t want it anymore, that’s when the people got angry.
Me: Yes. What a pity. Did you have any beliefs about death and the afterlife before you crossed over, John?
John: Well, I had very much a religious belief and upbringing. Very much a Catholic background where you go to church, you see the Jesus nailed to the cross. I remember as a child I thought, ‘Why would anybody want to be nailed to a cross?’ When you haven’t been told the stories, and you’re looking at the icon, everything seems so full of grief and disappointment. Everything seemed burdensome.
Me: Yes. And you probably were too young to understand even if someone explained it to you.
John: Right. And once we got into the stories of the religion and the Catholic background, it didn’t fulfill me. I never said it was wrong, you know? And being young, you don’t question these larger roles in life. You just say, ‘Okay, I’m taking this for what you’re telling me.’ But the first thing that really touched my life was music—
John: —and, believe it or not, Elvis Presley. I remember listening to his records.
Me: I bet you two jam together now!
John: Yeah, sure! Whenever he lets me!
Jamie and I giggle.
Jamie: He’s showing me playing, uh, his family life—apparently he didn’t grow up with his parents, or …(pause) He lived with his aunt and uncle, he says.
Me: Oh, okay.
John: They were musically inclined. And that’s where I found music. They had no children. I was the light in their life, and I enjoyed that. They let me be who I was. When I questioned things, they explained to me as best as they could, but they left the final answers up to me. My aunt taught me how to play—
Jamie: He’s showing me—not a guitar—but like a ukulele or a banjo or—
Me: Or a mandolin, maybe?
Jamie: Which one is the most round?
Me: I guess a banjo. I don’t know, really. So, John, what was death like for you?
John: Oh, a shock! That was it. I was going about my day; I had no awareness that anyone was stalking me. I had no awareness that anything was wrong. I didn’t wake up that day and think, ‘Today has danger in it,’ or ‘Today, I need to be aware.’ I loved that life! I did have some indifferences with my son.
Jamie: Did he only have one son?
Me: Not sure. I think he had two: one from his first marriage and another from his marriage to Yoko Ono. That’s Sean Lennon.
Jamie: This would be the one who lived with him at the time.
Me: Oh, okay. So you say you had differences with him or indifferences?
John: Indifferences. Communicating, my brain was on that, uh, I lived the lifestyle of wanting to love everybody, wanting everybody to have the hope in each other that we can create a mutual language of acceptance, a mutual language of love. And I recognized—
Jamie: Whoa! He recognized the man? Okay, wait. Apparently he recognized the gentleman. He made eye contact with him, the person who shot him.
Me: Oh, boy.
John: It didn’t surprise me, either. I didn’t try to defend myself or plea for my life. Once my transition happened, it was such a blow to the body that there wasn’t really a moment of sustaining itself. I felt I was out of the body before I hit the ground.
Me: So you didn’t suffer at all, then?
John: No, no I didn’t. I remember looking at my mouth, standing above my body on the sidewalk, looking at my mouth, and it’s moving like it’s trying to breathe. My chest is pumping itself. And in that one moment, I thought, ‘It’s true! We are fish out of water.’
Me: Oh, my. What an epiphany.
John: And when I felt myself, where I was, there was an ecstasy—that I had arrived—yet I felt that work on earth, it wasn’t done. I had so many other plans to use music as the soother to make people in different cultures stand next to each other and smile.
Watch for Part Two tomorrow (hopefully.)
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